It doesn’t matter if they are the Punisher - the Punisher is a murderous sack of shit who no one should idolize.
Eh, if the punisher was real I think he would be killing the same people that wear his symbol and that would be beneficial.
This narrative has already been addressed in both the comics, and last Daredevil season.
I think the cons of being okay with murderous vigilantism far outweigh whatever good the vigilante is trying to accomplish.
Yeah, we should roll over and die and not inconvenience the centrists.
False dichotomy.
I disagree. Two words:
Luigi Mangioni
Sure, it’s all well and good when the vigilante kills someone you want dead. But we’re not talking about whether any particular act of vigilantism is of benefit to society, we’re talking about the kind of society you’d wind up with if such vigilantism were considered okay. Because a whole lot more people would be dying, and not all of them would be the people you want dead.
Most of them probably wouldn’t be because the people willing to employ such measures -typically- aren’t the sort of people decent people would agree with on most matters of who deserves what.
Don’t worry, that’s not your reality, yours is way worse
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Perhaps. I’m somewhat partial to many worlds.
Silent down vote because you don’t understand the reference. You’re so disappointing. Your parents lied, you aren’t special.
I 100% agree with your first sentence. That is exactly the reason why I gave the answer of Luigi Mangioni.
Sure, it’s all well and good when the vigilante kills someone you want dead.
That’s what I want though. I would rather those who hold a monopoly of violence to go after people I want to be gone after. However, those who hold the monopoly of violence go after people they deem appropriate. If those who hold the monopoly of violence go after people I want I am against vigilantism but if they don’t I will support any act of vigilantism that goes after people I want but not acts of vigilantism that don’t.
Luigi Mangioni showed me an instance where I supported the ends (retribution against health insurance CEOs) over means (proper monopoly of violence). If you only follow means rather than ends exclusive than those who control the means and choose which means you follow will choose the ends you will arrive at. Why would I give away the ends prematurely and have someone else define it, probably for their own benefit?
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What you wrote is not new.
It was written and critiqued for a long time both in Western and Eastern philosophies of statecraft.
See Thomas Hobbes’ Laviethan and the Chinese mandate of heaven:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan_(Hobbes_book)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandate_of_Heaven
Vigilantism encompases all non state violence, both organised and anarchy. It includes (un)organised political terrorism (Luigi Mangione) and personal vendettas. You make no distinction between the two in your response.
This is why I agree with the first sentence. To say that all vigilante violence leads to poorer conditions for the poor is wrong. People can agree with a subset of non-state violence and disagree with another subset.
Also the actor is apparently a Zionist
The Punisher is supposed to represent the absolute failure of the system.
Cops and military are supposed to be the system.
When they wear The Punisher’s colours, they are literally admitting that they are starting from a failure state.
Which I find ridiculous.
Whats funny is people often wear the punisher logo with the thin blue line colors
at that point they might as well be wearing swasticas.
People fail to realize the punisher is a bad guy who kills based on his judgement and completely outside the law. When i see cops sport the skull, it just kills me.
They are unironically, the people The Punisher went after.
Much like V, Punisher has a goal he intends to die achieving. Kill the murders responsible for their torment. None of these panzies are willing to die or understand the skull is an admission, Frank does not belong in the world he wants to create.
I hope they double down on this in the new daredevil season
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