• I Cast Fist@programming.dev
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    200y ago electricity was already a known thing, though not something you got home yet.

    One thing you could do, however, is buy up “worthless” land around the Middle East for when oil starts being drilled

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    7 hours ago

    I know how electricity works, but without any technology more advanced than flint tools I’m gonna just have to go with “magic.”

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      You go fire - > kiln - > charcoal - > furnace - > steel and copper - > permanent magnets - > electric motor.

      The tricky thing is that you need a naturally occurring magnet (lodestone) to make the first steel magnet. If you happen to have a magnet on you you can do heat treatment of the steel, rub the magnet to align the atoms and get yourself a better magnet.

      After you got the electric motor you both have a generator and a motor easy peasy.

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        You can use chemical batteries to create electric current without magnets.

        You can also create weak permanent magnets by just hitting iron with a hammer.

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          Looked it up, this looks the easiest to tech up. You still have to heat it up to a dark red color, align it north to south and then hammer. It uses the earth’s magnetic field to magnetise.

          Then tech up to stronger steel magnets.

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    put lemon juice in shiny metal you found in cave put lot of it 5 lemons juice take shiny metal string attach to eachother make big big fire

    wash hand in fire boiled river water and do surgery with washed hand and washed utensil

    you know how make beer? ok now put hands and tool in beer when surgery

    dirty hand cause death .

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          I don’t think you can do it with beer. The yeast used dies from the alcohol they produce. I’m sure there is nasty bacteria that can survive in concentrations of alcohol above what yeast can.

          You could make vodka, or moonshine, but that requires distillation and is a more advanced tech.

          Soap (made from animal fat) and water should do fine for your hands. Use a fire to disinfect any tools before you use them (let them cool off first). That should majorly help with survival.

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        make sail make big wind attach to wood bring supplies then bring lemon

        to make lemon at home no colonization breed oranges with other plants see results

  • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today
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    9 hours ago

    You would at least know about penicillin, germ theory, how cells work, and about atoms. So much theory and philosophy would be skipped, for better or worse.

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    Assuming I did know anything about advanced productive processes, how would I convince anyone to give me resources to demonstrate them?

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      which is why you should learn about medieval technology, that’s something you can generally make from scratch with a team of workers.

      Yeah if you only have stone tools it’ll probably be shitty, but a shitty waterwheel that spins a shitty lathe is still plenty useful. It’s kind of nuts how much luxury you can get in no time at all if you just know what’s possible to make.

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      Everyone tends to forget the tools to make the tools to make the tools to make tools precise enough for half the shit we make. Or consistent enough. There’s alot of steps between sticks stones and fire to pretty much anything today.

      Sure you don’t need an industrial revolution for ALOT of stuff. But hot damn are you gonna run into issues without it, eventually

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    200 years isn’t that long ago, but call it 2,000 years: If you go back with at least a cursory grasp of the scientific method, that might be enough to get things up and running, if not for you then for the more intelligent and scientifically-minded types around you. “Try to prove yourself wrong at every step of the process” isn’t a natural impulse for most of us, but once taught and understood, it changes the game.

    You could also drop a few tantalising nuggets even if you don’t know what they mean:

    • E=MC2
    • Basic concept of evolution by natural selection
    • Germ theory of disease
    • Electromagnetism
    • Lenses for microscopy and telescopy, using the same lenses to start fires with the sun
    • Electrical conductivity of different materials (e.g. metal good, wool bad)
    • The basic components of a battery
    • Newton’s first few laws
    • Radio waves
    • Calculus
    • Periodic table of elements

    Those are all things you can read about in any library, so you could do a crash course and memorise the broad strokes or write them down, or just take the books with you if that’s allowed.

    If it were me, however, I’d just instantly kill myself.

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      Adding to this, Alessandro Volto invented the voltaic pile, the first true electric battery, in 1793, 233 years ago. Faraday invented the first electric motor in 1820. Neither built these entirely if their own creation, like all science they built them on the theories, discoveries, and work of those who came before. They progressed the application of all that knowledge into one new effort and are remembered because their creations took the process to the next level with inventions that reliably produced the intended outcome repeatedly.

      While the average modern person couldn’t built either of those from scratch even if the knowledge is accessible to them, it’s also not like most people 200 years ago were sitting around a fire in animal skins. There’s not that big of a gap in how most people live now and lived 200 years ago compared to 50,000 years ago.

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      I’d say the only thing you need to get electricity started is a civilization with sufficiently ready access to copper and lodestone that they’re not luxury materials.

      If you plop out in egypt or rome you can totally do it, it’ll just be a matter of convincing people to let you try.
      Get some copper wire, some flat-ish bits of lodestone, and follow this: https://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Simple-Electric-Generator Then you crank that soulja boy and find some way to show off the electricity, maybe just have it arc between the wire ends or make a frog leg twitch or something (assuming that doesn’t just horrify people). Or just make two of this setup and wire them to each other, so you can show that spinning one end makes the other end spin as well.

      Hopefully that’ll make some people go “oh shit what if…”

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    My only issue is turning spinning into power. I know we need spinning, and spinning is easy. Water mills are a thing and have been for ages.

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    Okay, first of all, 200 years ago was 1826, so why are we looking at a pic of cave men? They already had working telegraph machines in 1826. So, no, they aren’t going to be that confused by the concept of electricity.

    Secondly, don’t sell yourself too short. Just knowing that washing your hands prevents the spread of disease could be a big benefit.

    And thirdly, don’t revel in your ignorance – go out and learn some shit! You’ve got the entire internet at your fingertips right now. If you don’t know how electricity works, go learn how electricity works. You can do it right now. Seriously, close social media and search for “how does electricity work”.

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      Secondly, don’t sell yourself too short. Just knowing that washing your hands prevents the spread of disease could be a big benefit.

      Or, more than likely, it’ll get you killed. The earliest proponents of germ theory weren’t really treated the best.

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            Ugnug sees steam. Ugnug forgot that steam turns wheel. Wheel turns. Ugnug sees future man use tiny lightning to join two pieces of metal together. Ugnug believes future man can do something that Ugnug cannot.

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    That’s one thing that’s kinda bothers me a little bit in animes (Isekais).Like who the fuck knows exactly the chemical process on how to make everything and how every details gets done just by giving a vague description of something they only heard of.

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    I know about germs and the importance of cleanliness; I also know about what ACTUALLY caused the plague

    Also while Alexander the great was himself from so long ago, he’s apparently attributed with having been the first to invent tactics, so if I go further back I can be the first to engineer tactics myself

    If I go far enough back in Egypt, I’m scratching out messages in English in pyramids to really mess with archaeologists thousands of years down the line