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    7 hours ago

    This is so wildly unpopular that Dem leadership would have to be stupid to support Gavin’s presidential run.

    … they’d… have to be stupid…

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        Thanks to Plurality voting, once the primary is over, you have two choices.

        Bad and so much worse.

        There are other voting systems. Some claim to fix things without actually fixing anything, like Ranked Choice. (First invented and abandoned in 1785, reinvented in the 1820s)

        And some actually fix things but are less known, like Approval or STAR. (Approval is ancient, but STAR was developed in 2014)

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          Why do you think ranked choice won’t fix anything? I realize it’s not prefect, but it immediately fixes the current situation that allowed Trump to win and forces us to vote for lesser evil instead of voting on issues that are actually important to us.

          Works great in Australia.

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            Ranked Choice or Instant Runnoff Voting has some serious foundational problems.

            The first of which is that it’s actually a series of Plurality elections run at the same time. You cannot fix the problems of Plurality by iterating Plurality.

            Basically, because Plurality and RCV and such are Ordinal election systems built on the word “Or”. You can support A or B, but not both. This is where the spoiler effect comes from, and it leads to extremism.

            Cardinal voting systems like Approval and STAR are built around the word “And”. You can support A and B at the exact same level, and this means there’s no such thing as a spoiler effect.

            I’ve voted in primaries. There are generally two or three solid candidates who I like, and one or two very bad candidates who have a narrow, but dedicated support base.

            Under any ordinal voting system, the solid candidates lose, because there were too many of them. Even when most people would have preferred them.

            Under a cardinal system, that’s not needed. You can give each of the solid candidates full support, and then not care anymore because one of them will likely win.

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    Of course he does. Because he’s a fucking asshole.

    The one thing that unites conservatives and leftists right now is their hatred of Newsom.

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      I still have yet to talk to someone who is actually excited about Newsom’s inevitable presidential run. I gather the only people who like him any more are billionaires.

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      10 hours ago

      Except conservatives hate him because they think he’s a leftist and leftists hate him because he is obviously a conservative.

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      He also wants to be the DNC pick for president and can’t do that unless you are back by the rich. Also it’s that racket effect in action. Newsome literally right of fucking Regan. Didn’t he honor him recently? He even allows Maga and nazis on his podcast and sides with them. By time he runs only difference between him and Trump will be age and maybe Newsome isn’t pedophile. But who knows might have those skeletons in his closet as well.

      In case anyone wants to know what the racket effect is:

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    Yeah well you can’t ban unbanning your ban! Lloyd! Lloyd! You can’t triple stamp a double stamp!

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    Just wait until proposition 43 that cancels out 42 adds a yearly wealth tax for billionaires!