• PetteriPano@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Well… last time I bought a commodore I got the full schematic of the computer in the box. And the user manual taught me programming.

    I didn’t know how to operate it when I bought it, but I learned fast.

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      1 month ago

      I always wanted one but never got to. What would you recommend to relive those days and experience programming on a c64? Emulator ?

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        1 month ago

        I’m not sure I would recommend programming on an actual C64. The keyboard is horrible, and crossplatform toolchains are so much more powerful. I do my development in a modern IDE, crossassemble with tass64, link and load with spindle. Single file programs I might pack with exomizer. The workflow is just so fast to build, pack and run in VICE.

        VICE is a powerful emulator if you don’t want to spend money, or just dip your toes.

        In the old days we’d write our stuff straight in machine monitors, but that takes a special kind of masochist to learn these days.

        I do test on a real device with a turbo chameleon. I’d recomment getting that cartridge even withouth a C64, as it works great as a standalone C64 - great when travelling. And you can flash in machine code monitors if you want to try that out - at least for debugging.

        I’ll be getting one of them new commodores from perifractic once I can make sure it doesn’t get delivered while I’m away on extended xmas leave. They have 64 ultimate internals which are on par with my turbo chameleon.