To be honest, this has always kinda been how the conservatives in the US talk when they’re by themselves. I grew up in the 70s and heard it quite often from uptight assholes on the right.
It’s not anything new, really. It’s just that today the communications, instead of being face to face, are online and they leave records of their conversations.
Bigoted jackasses, gonna jackass.
Seconded, my experience as well.
Same and it all begins around middle school when white kids start really being openly racist around their fellow whites like myself.
Someone at home must be acting like that and teaching that behaviour to them.
No. I was legitimately shocked the first time I heard these things, as I switched schools.
I stayed shocked until today, though I’ve had to keep hearing it in my small town. For a while in the early 2000s, it got a bit better, but starting in 2016 it ramped up to 1980s levels again.
As a designer doing advertising work, a local bakery rebranded themselves and asked me in 2017 to redo their logo to Kathy’s Korner baKery, for instance. Of course I wouldn’t, but nobody would have asked me to do that before.
Back in the 80s/early 90s I would have seen shit like that, but not in the early to mid 2000s.
From my (very white girl) perspective, it seems some people have hit middle age and desperately want to return to their teens when that abhorrent behaviour was okay. Their personality has become wrapped up in it, and they think being asked to care about others is a judgement on their soul (it is, and they’re awful people), so they’re lashing out.
They don’t understand they can learn and grow, and instead feel everyone has turned against them, so they’re doubling down. It’s actually sad.
Not necessarily. It’s the internet turning them into this for the last 20+ years or so because most white boys have had internet access longer than any other group of people.
I had the same experience with racist kids growing up. That was long enough ago that only nerdy kids like me cared about using the internet.
Honestly, middle school kids usually aren’t good at hiding that kind of behaviour from their parents. Any decent parent would slap the proverbial shit out of their kid for it.
A viciously racist 10-13 year old kid will almost always have tacit or direct approval from their parents.
But you are right, I am certain that the internet today has been making it worse.
It’s especially making it worse with algorithms that affirm their beliefs so they don’t encounter as many differing views. The mass manipulation of children on a global scale scares the shit out of me.
One of these ubermensch
Yes, as always, the master race: fat, balding, and utterly insignificant without the inbred assurance that their skin color is some kind of achievement.
It’s ironic that the greatest achievements of the white “race” (race in quotes since it’s not a real thing) have been in the realm of technology, yet the most advanced thing these inbred fucks have ever achieved is mounting big flags in the backs of their trucks.
Know what you’re getting at and you seem to address this but I wouldn’t attribute any achievement to the white race. That feeds into the Nazi narrative. Every achievement is an adaptation of or a step forward from ancient human wisdom. The concept of zero, which is foundational to all modern mathematics and technology, was derived from the spiritual and philosophical practices of people in South Asia. The precursors of the printing press were developed by people in China partly due to the rapid expansion of Buddhism creating a high demand for sutras.
Many of the mathematic “developments” of Fibonacci, for example, were already known in the Arabian peninsula, after having been transferred from South Asia and further developed. He learned Arabic in order to being them to the West. The infinite series for trigonometric functions (precursors to calculus) were also known in South Asia and the Arab peninsula before being ?discovered independently in Europe (its unknown if this knowledge transferred).
Finally I’ll end with the fact that both the industrial revolution and enlightenment occurred on the back of colonial exploitation. It was the relative luxury and advatantage of having people working the fields in a distant nation that allowed for the technological development that led to the industrial revolution in the west. It was the relative luxury, at the cost of back breaking labor in the colonies, that allowed for people to meet in salons and cafes and discuss/propogate enlightenment values. There’s some debate that enlightenment values may have developed in part due to contact with Indigineous people in the Americas since precivilization cultures are inherently more egalitarian and democratic (as communal interdependence is absolutely crucial to survival).
My larger point is that these are human / global achivements. The idea that no attribution can be given to those who paid for them in their blood is an imperialist one. And the last thing we want to do is empower fascists / imperialists.
You’ve already acknowledged so just expanding on your point!
The very notion that someone would take some kind of credit for technological advancement because they share a similar skin color with a random visionary makes me want to communicate non-verbally with these douche bags in a very forceful way.
If you catch my drift.
14 or 40.
BMI? 40.
I wish the media outlets would publish pictures of them they didn’t pull from Linkedin but actual, social-media pics of these asswipes in their average, every-day, stained house-clothes and hoodies. It may seem superficial but these are the kinds of people who are deeply insecure about themselves and it would do far more damage than exposing their stupid conversations. They’re NOT ashamed of what they said, we have to understand that. If anything they are delighting in the attention.
These are just 4chan trolls who
maturedgot older and managed to get a foot in the door of actual political action. While I don’t believe they are more serious in their beliefs than any 4chan self-proclaimed nazi, they are definitely going to empower the actual intelligent fascists and monsters who crave power. Showing them as basement trolls and tubby, pathetic social rejects would weaken them in the arena of aesthetic performance and aspirations for leadership in the party.
this is a perfect example of just because it’s well known doesn’t make it fact.
now that there is evidence, it’s a fact.
Republicans are a party of Nazis.
The question remains: What are the real americans going to do about it?
It’s not going to get better by itself, and the rest of the world can’t just come over and fix it.
a third of Americans voted for this and another third couldn’t be assed to stop it. this is what “real Americans” want
You think this isn’t happening in the rest of the world?
No, the things that are happening in the US right now is not really comparable to things happening in any other Western democracy. All countries have their issues, but this blatant fascist takeover occurring in the US right now is quite unique.
But it is a cautionary tale. Other countries aren’t trying very hard to stifle their growing far-right movements and will end up the same way if they keep giving them legitimacy. They could also more openly condemn the fascist USA instead of treating Trump as acceptable and allowing him the usual respectful state visits.
Whataboutism…
That’s not whataboutism at all. I’m not downplaying the US’s extreme fascism in any way. I’m saying that it’s not an isolated case.
So you’re just saying that america isn’t the only one; what about other countries.
This was news to the people who needed to hear it
It’s another notch in the wall. We all wish the wall would come down already… But it will be painfully slow and all encompassing
But every notch does matter
These are the real americans…
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Fucked that they don’t even have to exaggerate. The literal quotes are so absurdly vile that they can’t be outdone.
I’m getting so fucking tired of libs’ satisfaction with hypocrisy. We already knew these people were Nazis, they’ve always fucking been Nazis. They say they aren’t because gaslighting is a fascist tactic and open support of Nazism doesn’t ring with racist middle class people who only have their internalized values to run on. Whenever chuds are caught lying there’s thousands of lib gotcha posts like it’s a victory.
It’s not a “victory”, it’s refusing to let this shit slide unspoken
Cool, what about the past three decades? Libs have allowed fascists into power as they always do and I’ve lived through three decades of them only talking. Reveling in hypocrisy is too late and too satisfying to people who don’t feel genuinely threatened.
So yeah, i’m not american but i gotta tell you “the libs allow this! The libs allowed that!!” Is a total whingeing scapegoat attempt.
You literally vote in every single rep on multiple levels in the US. As in you, the people. You vote from councilmembers all the way up to congress members. And trying to blame a single political party for the people you literally vote into power is big ol’ pile of shite.
You have a vote. You have more than two parties. But you always blame just one set of politics when your shit goes sideways. What the hell is up with that.
Who the fuck are you talking to rn? I’m not in the US.
edit: On top of that, it’s hilarious to have yet another person fail to understand what liberalism is. Did I say, “Democratic Party of the USA”? Liberalism is not a specific group of politicians in one country, it is also not specific parties who call themselves liberals, it is a specific ideology organized around individualism and capital that emerged through settler colonialism. Shut the FUUUUUUCK up about shit you don’t know about like how self-righteous. Go proselytize on street corners if you’re so desperate.
Oh sweetie.
Liberalism and liberal parties are very very different things across the world. One example is the liberal party in Australia, who are infamously right wing. Liberalism meaning the left as opposed to the right is absolutely a US idea.
So if you don’t want people thinking you’re in the US, maybe don’t use their terminology and specific political constructs.
Pompous. THAT’S STILL LIBERALISM YOU DENSE MOTHERFUCKER.
AI levels of incoherence there but this site is small enough and your post history is varied enough that I believe this is truly just an igorant and satisfied person.
Have you considered once in your entire bubble-wrapped life that the language you have been given to understand politics purposefully made you unable to interpret – and therefore criticize – the policies and philosophies in the systems of power around you? These are all liberal parties. Liberalism is not when you say the rainbow capitalism or let the raciazlied people bomb kids too, though they certainly seek to appropriate ideas of social justice and civil progress. It is a durable and dominant ideology with individualism and capitalism as its primary organizing principles. Morality is written around the imperatives of infinite growth, wealth accumulation (extraction), and individual human bodies rather than human relationalities to each other and the land/spaces they exist in. “Right wing” or “left wing” is relevant only in the purposefully disarming rhetoric adopted in settler-colonial states to obfuscate that dominance. When people correctly identify that liberals, as in liberalism not as in the colloquial term for “not a Republican Party supporter,” do not challenge fascism, they are identifying that the material interests of liberals does not conflict with the overt racism and authoritarianism of fascists. Australia is a country dominated by liberalism in the same way the US, and Canada are all dominated by liberalism as these are all eurosettler countries that hold individualism and capitalism as the highest principle in their social and political systems.
Racism is fundamental to liberalism as capitalism depends on an exploitable class of people and race allows for a naturalized and immutable justification for exploitation of particular groups. Queerphobia is fundamental to liberalism as the hierarchy which is necessary to facilitate exploitation must control how people reproduce culturally as well as physically. Civil rights for racialized and queer people in these systems is articulated through the legal right to access capital both as a way to protect this imperative from violent challenges and redirect the threat these movements pose into the legal framework of the state to better control them.
“Sweetie,” you have to fucking think about what these people and systems actually do and why. **You do not know what you are fucking talking about. ** When I say liberals are fucking insufferable because they never know what they’re talking about and what the stakes are in the rise of fascism, I’m talking about you. I do not care what you think you subscribe to, because you’ve said as explicitly as possible that you do not care to know what you believe in.
I will not pay attention to your next comment, I won’t even read it. I post this only in the hopes that you aren’t some piece of shit who will never learn and in case there are other libs who may come across this comment thread and have their own internalized values challenged for once.
Jesus christ dude. Touch grass.
Why do people on Lemmy always find a way to make everything about liberals? That’s what I’m getting tired of. Whenever something happens, people come up saying “well yeah, liberals suck”. How is that better than the thing you’re arguing against? If you’re tired of “satisfaction with hypocrisy” of one group, what is your prefered group doing? Is there someone actually doing something about it? Because I only see people writing stuff on internet forums, regardless of their affiliation.
- Liberalism is hegemonic and its subscribers wield the greatest power over society.
- Something being bad is not dependent on something else being good.
- Everything that alleviates the harm of this system on me – voting rights, property and employment protection, food regulation, socialized Healthcare, socialized education – was all won with the blood of anarchists, socialists, and unionists.
My “preferred group” – whatever the fuck that means – is currently fighting liberals, as we’ve always done.
Now fuck off.
Ah so you’re fighting liberals by writing unhinged stuff on internet. Good job. Think about it the next time no one takes you seriously.
You’re going to drown dude.
We all knew.
What are watermelon people supposed to be?
Racist term for black Americans
Huh. Thanks. I have no clue how that even makes abstract sense. (bit I don’t think I really care)
Black people like watermelon. It’s a stereotype
Don’t most people like watermelon?
Iirc (don’t quote me on this) during reconstruction after the Civil War many black Americans had little land (if any) and watermelon was an easy crop for limited land. Racist white people then associated the fruit with those they hate.
You got it, but you left out some details. The watermelon was actually a symbol of hope and prosperity for the recently freed slaves. The former slave owners, didnt like it. So, owning the media of the time, they started running ads showing caricatures of black people eating watermelon like animals. It took less then 10 years for the belief to become common that it was always a racist trope.
See also, fried chicken. That one came from Birth of a Nation. Both of these racist stereotypes persist today. I know the black community in America wanted to reclaim the N word, but IMO, they should have reclaimed the Watermelon as the symbol of freedom and perseverance that it once was for that first generation of freed slaves who over came massive hurdles to make a life for themselves.
To give you an idea of just how bad it was, there was a story about a woman who was a nanny for a young boy. When she was freed, and had to leave the boy cried and was utterly distraught that she was leaving. A few years later that young boy met his nanny again. The woman was overjoyed to see him and asked if he’d like to share some watermelon with him. His reply? “I dont eat n***** food.”. Thats the power of the media, and then it was only a few newspapers. Just imagine what its doing to us all today.
Just some 30 year kids. They will say edgy things. I mean, come on guys. … no really, let’s go to ikea and fuck a sofa.
You may have a career in politics ahead of you, my friend. Maybe even Vice President.
They’re not joking. They’re literally starting a genocide and a fascist military police state in front of our eyes
For a decade, I have been begging anyone who will listen to believe Trump et al. whenever they threaten someone. I swear that the only time Trump tells the truth is when he promises violence, retribution, or lawbreaking.
From the same party that wants to charge minority children as adults if they misbehave. Actual adults are just kids though.
Only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.
Are those actual leaked quotes on the right?? Good lord!!
In case you haven’t seen the report,
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/14/private-chat-among-young-gop-club-members-00592146
I thought the comics was clumsy satire. Turns out it’s basically straight infographics at this point.
Great.
Thank you.
I’m stunned.
The right will boys will be boys this shit until the skies fill with the smoke of voters.
I’m stunned.
I’m not. Kids did this shit all the time in middle and high school. These people just never ran into any kind of push back or experienced maturity
My husband is a high school teacher. He’s had more than a decade of students saying Nazi shit in an attempt to be “edgy.” They seem surprised when he calls them out on their bullshit. His response has made a few (probably too few) of them think twice about how people perceive them because of their words.
Last year was the first time he had a student who spouted that crap because he actually believed it. I think he has a couple of students now who actively identify as fascists. Times, they are a-changin’.
So what is his go-to response?
Sometimes it’s “being edgy just for the sake of it isn’t cool. Don’t be an idiot; people fought wars over this.” Students generally respect him, so once they realize he doesn’t play that game, they stop doing it in his classes.
If it’s a specific kind of bigotry, he points out that someone important to him is black/gay/trans/an immigrant/etc, and asks the kid if they’ve even met someone in that group. Most of the time the kid hasn’t and they’re just parroting things they’ve heard at home or online.
That sounds like a really good strategy, I like it. Also he must be a good teacher to be respected like that. Thank you both for being the good guys.
Glad I was homeschooled then
YMMV. It’s more you should be grateful you didn’t have racist parents.
Vance already said it was kids doing dumb kid things. They’re not kids. They’re adults. If you’re old enough to vote, your a freaking adult. If you can fight and die in the military, you’re an adult. You never see anyone say oh those are just kid soldiers doing kid soldiers things. No because they’re adults who are responsible for their own actions and words.
And not even ‘technically 19 years olds are adults’ type adults, these are men aged 25-34 who posted that shit.
No Kings this Saturday! Show up!
germans far right is exactly the same. leaked chats showed the most vile disgusting shit. but the sad part is, that you don’t even need those leaked chats. official politicians suggested shooting at immigrants, killing opponents and getting rid of our grundgesetz (which resembles your constitution).
but ask “moderate” if we should use our law that allows us to prohibit parties that clearly attack our grundgesetz and they will come up with the law of free speech (which doesn’t apply in this case). the irony: the far right already made clear that free speech of the first thing to go when they are in charge.
for gods sake read some karl popper: you can’t tolerate the intolerant! free speech can only justify free speech as long as that speech doesn’t attack the freedom of others.
This meme was my first exposure to the leaked texts. I suppose having read the articles about this, I’ll believe anything now.
Sadly it feels as if the US is reliving Germany’s pre-WWII history and it feels like we are all just sleepwalking into the same hell.
Every so often though there’s a little good news. We shall see.
And confirmed: we cannot be tolerant of the intolerant!
It says so much about the Republican Party that they’re defending these limpdick fifth-graders instead of saying: “You know what? We don’t like these pathetic little shit-stains either.”
You should also be aware that the group accepts people up to age 40.
So the framing that these are children or teens is also misleading.
The Young Republicans weren’t lying when they said calling their opposition candidates white supremacists might work against them.
“I love Hitler,” Republicans,
probablyactuallyI dont know. On one hand we have cunts wearing red hats and chatting shit about “men in dresses”. And on the other we have blue haired land whales chatting shit about how being “male and pale is stale”. I think everyone is just a cunt at this point. And while we dont have an easily recognisable name for it like “nazi”, the other side of the CULTure wars would be every bit the horror show the red hat wearing pricks would be if left unchecked in power.
Yeah, thats right. Im both sidesing this mother fucker. I dont care what tragic cult script youve got lined up, ready to go. The fact is, anyone who takes part in the culture wars is a cunt. No ifs, no ands, no buts. Red hats and pick up trucks, or blue hair and septum rings. Youre all toxic and cringe.
Bernie Sanders: Total Blue Haired Land Whale. Can hardly hear him talk over the clank of all his facial piercings. Trynna give everyone healthcare and stop the tidal wave of money rushing out of the pockets of working people into the ever expanding hoards of billionaires. So problematic.
Ah, so its the best of us vs the worst of them argument? Never heard that one before…
Do you think the MAGAs consider Trump, Hegseth, or these chucklefuck MAGAlings as the worst of them or the best of them? Pit the right’s “Best” against the left’s “Best” and you make sir/madam Sparkly Fart’s point.
A lot of them probably do, yes. Doesnt make them correct. And we arent talking about MAGA, we are talking about Republicans. I know thats REAL fucking hard for your cult warped brain to see the distinction, but its there.
The obvious example is John McCain. When his supporters were chatting shit about Obama, he shut that shit down. Told it like it was, that he was a good man that he just happened to disagree with on some issues. Those kinds of republicans are still around. But you dont care about that, because youre the same time of inbred fuck up that he had to shut down when they were chatting shit about Obama. You just dont see it, because youre head is filled with cult nonsense. Just like the MAGA brain rot is filled with their cult nonsense.
Newsflash for you, chief. You are the thing you hate.
It’s pretty telling that your example of a prominent non-MAGA type republican died 7 years ago. What Republicans support is MAGA. Otherwise they could hold MAGA people responsible for their clear crimes and moral failings.
That was my obvious example. So I wouldnt be called a liar, because him doing that is widely known about. Whats telling is that you just did the every thing Im accusing you of, and you think its fucking fine.
Can you name any Republicans with power that don’t go along with MAGA?
John “I hate the g**ks and I always will” McCain is your champion?
oh look, it’s someone’s unearthed post from 2016
Of all the things you could have said to grab some free worthless internet points, that might just be the weakest. You can do better. I believe in you. Come on, dude. You got this.
Fully agree with you
Most ultra leftists are horrible by themselves and would do the exact same thing, and a lot of the politically correctness bullshit from years ago caused many people to vote trump back then.
whats your most radical left position? do you even have any left wing positions?
When Dani Lalonders said that she didnt hire white people because they “created unsafe working environments”, you all said that was fine. It was like a white woman saying she crosses the street when she see a black guy because she doesnt feel safe. Its racism then, but not when it was Dani. I wonder why that is? Why is it ok for some people to be racist, but not others? Could it be, because you are all in fucking cult? And the only real difference between you is the colour of whatever is on your head?
Lemme guess, youre a white european who hates illegal immigrants?
I dont know how you got that from what I said, but youre half right. Im Scottish. Im as left wing as you can get without sporting a shitty moustache. And thats actual left wing, not that right wing ghoulish shit you Americans pretend is left wing.
I have zero issues with anyone coming here. The more the merrier. So, now what you got? What keen insights of the American fuck wit can I expect next?
bro I just realized you arent even the person i was originally talkkng to, who the fuck are you? I literally don’t care about your opinion but the guy I originally commented on. The guy I was talking to I am betting is a liberal right winger. Dont care about your stances
shit the fuck up please
It’s best to just block Benny, he’s not just a white European who hates immigrants, he’s a white European who hates immigrants, women, and anyone of a different shade than he is. He’s a proper cunt.
Thank god we have Pizzacake around to let us know about this.
Seriously though, she always has the most blindingly obvious takes, when she’s not busy demonising men.
All femimist authors attract a following of dudes who, despite not being antifeminist when asked, somehow always manage to find abnormal amounts of energy to repeatedly and loudly criticize them for objective faults.
Energy and time they rarely manage to find for criticizing authors who are not feminist.
attracting a crowd of critics doesn’t make someone a feminist. sometimes it just makes them female or a tall poppy.
