The three-time Oscar-winning writer-director behind Up, Inside Out and Soul said he believes Pixar will continue to be “useful” to parent company Disney so long as it focuses on producing quality films. “If we’re going to just crank crap out, let’s shut the doors. I’d rather die trying to make something that we genuinely believe in,” he said.

Physics dictates if he were to mention Toy Story 5 in the same sentence he’d be instantly crushed by the irony.