• LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
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    12 hours ago

    I mean I get the point but it’s kinda pointless to quibble about numbers when the regime itself acknowledges they killed thousands. The meme implies this is made up but that’s not so.

    The Iranian people deserve help but I don’t know what could actually help them. Not what Trump is doing certainly.

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      Ending the decades of trade sanctions might be a good step forward. Sanctions punish the poorest, the wealthy and powerful in any nation subject to sanctions miraculously find a way to maintain their lifestyles.

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        Oppressively authoritarian nations stay like that even without sanctions. Just look at places like Turkmenistan. It’s has similar levels of oppression to North Korea and isn’t on a sanction list. Or hell, just Saudi Arabia. The sanctions aren’t the issue, the shitty dictators are and the only solution is to stop funding their regimes… but the oil is too good

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      11 hours ago

      The meme does not imply there weren’t thousands of deaths lol.

      The reality is, Westerners would never care about a few thousand dead Iranians. They hate brown people way too much. You tell them 36k were slaughtered and suddenly the idea of invading isn’t as questionable.

      If this were “quibbling about numbers” then the US wouldn’t have to make up shit like this. The actual point of the meme went over your head fella…

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        I sat in a room in the UK this week, with 19 other people, with love and tears and anger about what is happening in Iran.

        One person in this group is Iranian and another is from Turkey, so also impacted and scared.

        I strongly reject the idea that westerners hate brown people as strongly as when I reject the people who claim racism isn’t a thing in the UK.

        Hyperbole serves no one when it obscures Truth.

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          Westerners definitely hate brown people. This is literally backed by science. What the fuck are you talking about?

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            No it isn’t. You might be able to interpret a study that way, if you choose to.

            Actual science doesn’t work that way, it works to exclude choice and bias.

            It’s very easy to find westerners who don’t hate brown people and disprove the idea. There’s literally thousands of them in every town in my country. The racists are a real problem, they’re not even a majority and they’re causing real issues.

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              Yeah, as a research psychologist, I always cringe so hard hearing things like this. There isn’t something special about how white people from regions we lable as “the west” express bigotry. Literally, ever human is capable of creating ingroup outgroup differentiations as illustrated from social identity theory and those can be strongly or weakly oriented towars dominance (i.e. social dominance orientation). I’ve never seen meta analytic evidence showing any subset of the human population to be significantly more prone to social dominance. The thing that makes it so brown people are viewed negatively by “westerners” is the long history of racism pushed by the ruling class to justify atrocities for profit.

              Don’t be campist people, work in solidarity with each other and support your fellow man.

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                There isn’t something special about how white people from regions we lable as “the west” express bigotry.

                Whoah what the fuck? Nobody implied otherwise lol. What kind of psychologist cant even read properly? You look crazy mate 🤣

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                  Please then provide a theoretical model backed by meta analytic evidence to show that this group somehow has a fundamentally different cognitive process for interacting with other groups then, I’ll wait

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        It does imply that whether you intended it to or not.

        If westerners hate brown people so much then why does the death total matter at all? Your statement is contradictory.

        If I missed the point maybe you can explain it more clearly.