The fascist threat is from both black and red. Rather than work with our enemies to fight our enemies, anarchists should focus on doing what they do and build our power independently from fascism.
And its always interesting, you never see people pressuring communists to work with liberals to help liberalism fight fascism but anarchists must always work with communists to do so.
And its always interesting, you never see people pressuring communists to work with liberals to help liberalism fight fascism but anarchists must always work with communists to do so.
Are you kidding? We see radicals of all kinds being pushed to vote for or support liberals, especially communists. This is very out of touch with reality.
I used to be part of a Trotskyist organisation a while ago and that’s pretty much exactly what we did. I believe it’s called entryism. Not only was it policy to vote Labour but to enter the party and try to push it further left.
I am sorry but you are just wrong here, and dangerously out of touch.
If you want anarchists to invade ML group, destabilise and flip them, I’m all for it, still not going to join in as a I think it’s futile, but I’ll support others doing it - but I highly suspect that’s not what they’re asking us to do.
While I understand what you are saying in practice it means voting for and backing up a liberal party even if it’s a means to an end. People push anarchists to work with MLs and with liberals for the same reasons. Mainly that it’s a form of harm reduction until an actual revolution can take place. The entryism into labour wasn’t done instead of a revolution. It was meant to get policies that support the working class in place until such a time as a real revolution could be enacted which obviously takes time.
That’s not the case. Malcom Harris (famously an anarchist) argues exactly for communists to work with liberals (social democrats). That’s exactly the framework he sets up: in so far as many of our goals are now aligned, we all work together, but without compromising our own goals and values.
The fascist threat is from both black and red. Rather than work with our enemies to fight our enemies, anarchists should focus on doing what they do and build our power independently from fascism.
And its always interesting, you never see people pressuring communists to work with liberals to help liberalism fight fascism but anarchists must always work with communists to do so.
Are you kidding? We see radicals of all kinds being pushed to vote for or support liberals, especially communists. This is very out of touch with reality.
I never see ML’s pushing other ML’s to support liberals.
I used to be part of a Trotskyist organisation a while ago and that’s pretty much exactly what we did. I believe it’s called entryism. Not only was it policy to vote Labour but to enter the party and try to push it further left.
I am sorry but you are just wrong here, and dangerously out of touch.
Entryism is not supporting, it’s subverting.
If you want anarchists to invade ML group, destabilise and flip them, I’m all for it, still not going to join in as a I think it’s futile, but I’ll support others doing it - but I highly suspect that’s not what they’re asking us to do.
While I understand what you are saying in practice it means voting for and backing up a liberal party even if it’s a means to an end. People push anarchists to work with MLs and with liberals for the same reasons. Mainly that it’s a form of harm reduction until an actual revolution can take place. The entryism into labour wasn’t done instead of a revolution. It was meant to get policies that support the working class in place until such a time as a real revolution could be enacted which obviously takes time.
That’s not the case. Malcom Harris (famously an anarchist) argues exactly for communists to work with liberals (social democrats). That’s exactly the framework he sets up: in so far as many of our goals are now aligned, we all work together, but without compromising our own goals and values.