Important Edit: Our existing energy production does not exist separate from AI industries. AI Data centers are built on TOP of our current energy and fuel production and they are actively leeching energy at projected rates that displace human consumption. Making them orders of magnitude more wasteful. Which makes this whole argument about corn and ethanol incredibly disingenuous.
Then there is all that we already know: AI tech oligarchs in general are the ones primarily lobbying and kissing trump’s ass to remove regulations from the energy industries, and more wasteful and harmful technologies will be used to push the massive scale of datacenters they need to secure their unreal funding rounds. All this corruption is built ON TOP of already harmful energy systems and it’s not meant to fix them for the better.
With that said: The corn industry in part feeds people, my country has a rich culinary tradition that stems from corn and it’s derivatives.
Generative ai is wasteful useless crap. Also gen ai is projected to scale many times more just to become profitable. The corn industry already is. Also generative AI not only uses a lot of water; It uses an exorbitant amount of electricity and infrastructure costs, that based on the hype cycle for untenable and physically impossible “AGI” it will continue to ramp up more costs related to infrastructure and training that will bleed other more useful industries and infrastructure ventures dry.
Gen AI is a problem that is particularly capitalist. But there is no country in the world that has the socialist logic to humanize the use of AI. (Not even china.) Our reality is corrupt capitalist oligarchy and we engage with it that way. not in hypotheticals.
Open source models are the spearhead of a disruption cycle. The initial part of the business where corporations subsidize their costs and loose money to hook you in and de-skill you. When that cycle is over, open source models will become more scarce, unsupported and potentially ilegal, foreign companies that provide local models will become outlawed with the argument pf “security risks” and AI corporations will increase their prices many times over to allow the plebs access to their technology that monopolizes, centralizes and promotes government control and approval across culture and most industries. For this reason the argument of open source models is useless.
As a final note; The meme is too soft in order to be funny; A more accurate messaging would be that “the king wants to use the people’s resources to have a mechanism that can be unnacountable for bombing schools full of children and funneling money into mass surveillance of it’s subjects.”
@Ilixtze@FauxLiving I’m sorry but you’re incorrect, the very large majority of corn in the US goes to fuel ethanol to feed cars. Only a small percent goes to food, and its shit like corn syrup thats horrible for you anyway.
Corn industry is heavily propped up by subsidies. Its not small local farmers either. Its giant corpo farms, which need to dissapear.
Stop using millions of acres for corn, use some for panels and wind and let the rest return to natural prairie as it should be.
Not where i live: My country produced in 2025 around 20 millions of tons of corn and most of it was used for food production. And most of our culinary products are derived from corn; i write as i put some eggs and chilorio into a tortilla and shove it in my mouth.
Also interesting that for a country like mine that consumes so much corn , corn syrup is only commonly used in the manufactured food industry. and even corn syrup that is bad for your health is ten times better than a technology that is used as an excuse to bomb children and impose mass surveillance. Corn is awesome dude , come have some tacos and stop coping.
As commented above Our existing energy infrastructure does not exist separate from AI industries. AI Data centers is build on TOP of our energy and food production making them twice as wasteful. Our whole industries exist to support human life, not useless chatbots. What is worse, in your case, the United States: The endemic corruption; lack of energy infrastructure funding and the fact that energy regulations have been systematically destroyed with the help of lobbying by the AI tech Oligarchs themselves will make it so that more wasteful technologies than just Ethanol are used to power The useless AI bubble.
So it’s insulting to hear people suggest that our current industries are separate from AI data centers. It is an anti-human attitude. Our industries can be improved, made more clean and human and AI in it’s current form and logic is doing the oposite.
also i must push the point forward that no mater where you live; AI data center industries are not separate from existing energy and food infrastructure; but built on top of it and leeching from it, which makes the whole corn argument invalid. That aside from the fact that is inherently anti-human to try to try to compare our existing food and energy infrastructures with an emerging technology that not only hasn’t proved itself, it is plagued with corruption and manufactured hype funded by the worst oligarchs in the world.
Important Edit: Our existing energy production does not exist separate from AI industries. AI Data centers are built on TOP of our current energy and fuel production and they are actively leeching energy at projected rates that displace human consumption. Making them orders of magnitude more wasteful. Which makes this whole argument about corn and ethanol incredibly disingenuous.
Then there is all that we already know: AI tech oligarchs in general are the ones primarily lobbying and kissing trump’s ass to remove regulations from the energy industries, and more wasteful and harmful technologies will be used to push the massive scale of datacenters they need to secure their unreal funding rounds. All this corruption is built ON TOP of already harmful energy systems and it’s not meant to fix them for the better.
With that said: The corn industry in part feeds people, my country has a rich culinary tradition that stems from corn and it’s derivatives.
Generative ai is wasteful useless crap. Also gen ai is projected to scale many times more just to become profitable. The corn industry already is. Also generative AI not only uses a lot of water; It uses an exorbitant amount of electricity and infrastructure costs, that based on the hype cycle for untenable and physically impossible “AGI” it will continue to ramp up more costs related to infrastructure and training that will bleed other more useful industries and infrastructure ventures dry.
Gen AI is a problem that is particularly capitalist. But there is no country in the world that has the socialist logic to humanize the use of AI. (Not even china.) Our reality is corrupt capitalist oligarchy and we engage with it that way. not in hypotheticals.
Open source models are the spearhead of a disruption cycle. The initial part of the business where corporations subsidize their costs and loose money to hook you in and de-skill you. When that cycle is over, open source models will become more scarce, unsupported and potentially ilegal, foreign companies that provide local models will become outlawed with the argument pf “security risks” and AI corporations will increase their prices many times over to allow the plebs access to their technology that monopolizes, centralizes and promotes government control and approval across culture and most industries. For this reason the argument of open source models is useless.
As a final note; The meme is too soft in order to be funny; A more accurate messaging would be that “the king wants to use the people’s resources to have a mechanism that can be unnacountable for bombing schools full of children and funneling money into mass surveillance of it’s subjects.”
@Ilixtze @FauxLiving I’m sorry but you’re incorrect, the very large majority of corn in the US goes to fuel ethanol to feed cars. Only a small percent goes to food, and its shit like corn syrup thats horrible for you anyway.
Corn industry is heavily propped up by subsidies. Its not small local farmers either. Its giant corpo farms, which need to dissapear.
Stop using millions of acres for corn, use some for panels and wind and let the rest return to natural prairie as it should be.
Not where i live: My country produced in 2025 around 20 millions of tons of corn and most of it was used for food production. And most of our culinary products are derived from corn; i write as i put some eggs and chilorio into a tortilla and shove it in my mouth.
Also interesting that for a country like mine that consumes so much corn , corn syrup is only commonly used in the manufactured food industry. and even corn syrup that is bad for your health is ten times better than a technology that is used as an excuse to bomb children and impose mass surveillance. Corn is awesome dude , come have some tacos and stop coping.
As commented above Our existing energy infrastructure does not exist separate from AI industries. AI Data centers is build on TOP of our energy and food production making them twice as wasteful. Our whole industries exist to support human life, not useless chatbots. What is worse, in your case, the United States: The endemic corruption; lack of energy infrastructure funding and the fact that energy regulations have been systematically destroyed with the help of lobbying by the AI tech Oligarchs themselves will make it so that more wasteful technologies than just Ethanol are used to power The useless AI bubble.
So it’s insulting to hear people suggest that our current industries are separate from AI data centers. It is an anti-human attitude. Our industries can be improved, made more clean and human and AI in it’s current form and logic is doing the oposite.
You are aware that the vast vast majority of people do not live where you live? That’s how living somewhere works.
also i must push the point forward that no mater where you live; AI data center industries are not separate from existing energy and food infrastructure; but built on top of it and leeching from it, which makes the whole corn argument invalid. That aside from the fact that is inherently anti-human to try to try to compare our existing food and energy infrastructures with an emerging technology that not only hasn’t proved itself, it is plagued with corruption and manufactured hype funded by the worst oligarchs in the world.