• lumpenproletariat@quokk.auOPM
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    No, it’s not. And it’s that sort of thinking that leads to a half march towards fascism of which Trump has taken the final plunge.

    If your options are move to the right or move even more to the right, neither option gets you to the left. Thus the only realistic option is to find alternative means.

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      Then fucking do something that works instead of posting memes.

      And if you are fucking doing something, then stop posting pointless memes that’ll draw the wrong kind of attention and get you caught.

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        Individuals alone cannot achieve the change needed, it’s going to take centrists understanding that voting won’t work and that they need to become radical.

        Memes among other things are a way to agitate and educate, to help achieve that goal. And memes got the alt-right into power by normalising their ideas, they are effective tools of communication.

        Have you ever reached out to local groups and built up community resistance? Are you prepared for anything, or do you just expect to vote every 4 years and that’s your part done.

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          “The alt-right” please, you shit on “centrists” then use neolib speak. The USA has always been shitty right wing and had to dragged into any sort of leftism.

          Memes didn’t get the right wing into power - the right wing already having power got the further right into power.

          Memes won’t accomplish shit at this point, and neither will shitting on the only shot y’all have left at having elections at all again - assuming the next ones are even legit.

          Most casual people don’t know the difference between the left and the general Democrats, or the nuance between AOC or Zohran and Pelosi.

          You don’t shit on the only thing that might give y’all a shot, you raise up those what will improve things.

          And doing this close to the elections, you might as well be a Republican pushing people to not vote.

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            The elections are 2 years away…

            So utterly tired of this “you can’t complain when it’s close to the election ” nonsense. There’s never a good time with you lot is there? How convenient.

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              Aren’t there midterms or such this year? The presidential election is 2.5 years away

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                Yes, there is but that won’t remove or stop Trump.

                When are people allowed to complain? Can’t do it at the presidential elections, can’t do it at the midterms. Guess every leftist should stop taking and simply vote blue no matter who, who cares if the Overton window has only ever shifted to Nazism from doing so.

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                  How about WHEN THEY’RE ACTUALLY IN POWER?

                  The Overton window there is so far to the right it’s missing 2 panels. Bring back 4 panels first.

                  But more importantly, it’s better to build up good candidates or compare them to bad candidates rather than only be negative to the primary opposition of “worse”. As others pointed out here, Republicans were the ones that sent thug stooges there, and the Biden administration at least upheld the protesters demands eventually and actually intervened in a positive way.

                  Trump would have probably just shot them and ignore court orders - you know, as ICE is currently doing?

                  Right now you’re about as effective as complaining about what the centrists are doing as Hitler and the Nazis start a war.

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      “The trolley problem” isn’t just some meme.

      The lever is right there and pulling it doesn’t preclude you from trying to derail the train. And when you fail to derail the train ignoring the lever was a choice you made: the consequences of which are on you.