The meme is literally about people are traditionally labelled different classes fighting against themselves.
The whole point of this comic is to point out the absurdity of working class people with different incomes fighting each other, when there are people extracting extreme levels of wealth.
Yes, people’s definition of working class may differ, but the message of the comic is the same regardless. It’s pointing out how silly it is to fight at the kiddie tables.
And if successful, then becomes the system, including the legal system, and then the same flaws appear.
There’s always going to be problems in society, but this type of argument is unconvincing, considering how much, and how frequently society has changed over the last 2000 years - practically in the blink of an eye in the scope of human existence. The same problems aren’t guaranteed to appear under a new system. The various forms of society throughout history have definitely had different problems.
The revolutions that have been most successful kept in mind the laws and legislation that needed to be changed or enforced
I’m just saying that the fundamental key here is mobilisation of the people, who are the ultimate arbiters of the law. The law is fundamentally democratic in origin and only exists because we collectively believe in it.
There have been numerous movements in the past that were illegal at the time, but are obviously moral in retrospect (the civil rights movement in the US comes to mind).
“Just work within the system” as a blanket statement is not a serious argument to be making when the system is massively rigged in favour of wealth. (Apologies if this isn’t exactly what you were arguing just seemed that way)
No one’s suggesting you abolish rules/laws entirely and start completely from scratch. Well, no one I take seriously anyway.
Just seems to me you are redefining the middle class into the working class and are focusing on making the distinction be based on belonging to some arbitrary class. I don’t even think the psychopaths we are referring to really care about belonging to anything if they can get ahead.
You can mobilize people, but if you are excluding people that could be included or trying to address what’s actually an arbitrary definition, don’t forget, there are psychopaths interested in taking you for a ride.
The whole point of this comic is to point out the absurdity of working class people with different incomes fighting each other, when there are people extracting extreme levels of wealth.
Yes, people’s definition of working class may differ, but the message of the comic is the same regardless. It’s pointing out how silly it is to fight at the kiddie tables.
There’s always going to be problems in society, but this type of argument is unconvincing, considering how much, and how frequently society has changed over the last 2000 years - practically in the blink of an eye in the scope of human existence. The same problems aren’t guaranteed to appear under a new system. The various forms of society throughout history have definitely had different problems.
I’m just saying that the fundamental key here is mobilisation of the people, who are the ultimate arbiters of the law. The law is fundamentally democratic in origin and only exists because we collectively believe in it.
There have been numerous movements in the past that were illegal at the time, but are obviously moral in retrospect (the civil rights movement in the US comes to mind).
“Just work within the system” as a blanket statement is not a serious argument to be making when the system is massively rigged in favour of wealth. (Apologies if this isn’t exactly what you were arguing just seemed that way)
No one’s suggesting you abolish rules/laws entirely and start completely from scratch. Well, no one I take seriously anyway.
Just seems to me you are redefining the middle class into the working class and are focusing on making the distinction be based on belonging to some arbitrary class. I don’t even think the psychopaths we are referring to really care about belonging to anything if they can get ahead.
You can mobilize people, but if you are excluding people that could be included or trying to address what’s actually an arbitrary definition, don’t forget, there are psychopaths interested in taking you for a ride.