You don’t dismantle the patriarchy by attacking men and blaming them for everything. The patriarchy is upheld by women as well. Women have privileges under the patriarchy, that feminists are not ready to let go off.
A post patriarchy has to be better for everybody and can only be reached by gaining the support of men.
The current trend is a growing political division between men and women with women moving to the left and men to the right. The currently employed strategy of putting men down makes this worse.
Having any society that allows for rulers to exist in any form will always result in having a form of patriarchy, among other arbitrary divisions, such as race, whatever “IQ” is, blue vs white collar, who people vote for, etc. not including “the powerful vs the masses”.
Divide and conquer is a strategy as old as society.
It’s not about what to call it, because patriarchy has a specific definition and is a real issue, but instead, it’s about realizing that patriarchy is a symptom of a larger issue of class and to point the finger at the correct issue to better organize with like-minded people to ultimately fix the issue at its core.
History, from the matriarchies of old to the queens of Ancient Egypt, shows that “rulers” and “patriarchy” aren’t a package deal. Patriarchy isn’t a symptom of hierarchy. It’s a distinct engine of oppression. Abolishing class doesn’t automatically liberate women from the material reality of unpaid household labor.
We cannot treat gendered or racial division resolving as an inevitable byproduct of a classless society. Cultural superstructures lag behind economic shifts, and these autonomous divisions don’t simply resolve to match a new base.
Praxis is the refusal to treat the domestic struggle as a secondary theater of the revolution. By naming and engaging the material roots of gender, race, and the “IQ” myth today, we forge solidarity with groups historically kept on the sidelines, unifying the masses for the broader class struggle. We don’t wait for these hierarchies to evaporate. We name them and bring the fight to them.
These are all great reasons for men to want to dismantle the patriarchy (the cause of them all)
You don’t dismantle the patriarchy by attacking men and blaming them for everything. The patriarchy is upheld by women as well. Women have privileges under the patriarchy, that feminists are not ready to let go off.
A post patriarchy has to be better for everybody and can only be reached by gaining the support of men.
The current trend is a growing political division between men and women with women moving to the left and men to the right. The currently employed strategy of putting men down makes this worse.
True. In what ways can we get more men to understand the patriarchy is their real enemy?
Force us to at gunpoint is the only reasonable answer
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By not calling it patriarchy, that term is burned.
Okay. What would you call it?
I’d call it The Machine, and then we could all rage against it
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Capitalism or “ruling class”
Having any society that allows for rulers to exist in any form will always result in having a form of patriarchy, among other arbitrary divisions, such as race, whatever “IQ” is, blue vs white collar, who people vote for, etc. not including “the powerful vs the masses”.
Divide and conquer is a strategy as old as society.
Abolition of class is a nice idea, but in the meantime, what would you call patriarchy instead?
It’s not about what to call it, because patriarchy has a specific definition and is a real issue, but instead, it’s about realizing that patriarchy is a symptom of a larger issue of class and to point the finger at the correct issue to better organize with like-minded people to ultimately fix the issue at its core.
History, from the matriarchies of old to the queens of Ancient Egypt, shows that “rulers” and “patriarchy” aren’t a package deal. Patriarchy isn’t a symptom of hierarchy. It’s a distinct engine of oppression. Abolishing class doesn’t automatically liberate women from the material reality of unpaid household labor.
We cannot treat gendered or racial division resolving as an inevitable byproduct of a classless society. Cultural superstructures lag behind economic shifts, and these autonomous divisions don’t simply resolve to match a new base.
Praxis is the refusal to treat the domestic struggle as a secondary theater of the revolution. By naming and engaging the material roots of gender, race, and the “IQ” myth today, we forge solidarity with groups historically kept on the sidelines, unifying the masses for the broader class struggle. We don’t wait for these hierarchies to evaporate. We name them and bring the fight to them.
Joe
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