Where did I say “all men?” Is it not entirely possible that these are all issues caused explicitly by men while there is also a conscious awareness from other men who are aware of and trying to address the issue? Men are the issue, or more accurately the concept of obligate masculinity is, but guess what demographic is enforcing that mindset?
Hint: not women, and if you think it is then you don’t listen to women nor men.
Not a dog whistle. I’m most likely more progressive than you, but you keep trying to feel superior to others! That’s definitely not a part of the problem!
My experience from square straight married life is that women want men in general to be gentle and kind and whatnot, but they want their own husband to be capable of violence.
At least that was my wife, there were aspects of toxic masculinity that she absolutely encouraged.
Like, one time I got on a busy train with her and another guy got scared of me and left his seat. She sat down and smiled and patted my hand and said “that’s respect right there baby”
And I totally understand the desire to have sex with a big strong not too bright dominant guy, trust me I get it.
It’s not just SOs, mothers often play a huge part in conditioning men for the patriarchy, calling them little soldiers, telling them not to cry, to fight back at the bully at school, etc.
So, because women also have the ability to subjectively be shitty people and internalize misogyny that means no men are to blame for the outlined issues?
Nice dog whistle.
Where did I say “all men?” Is it not entirely possible that these are all issues caused explicitly by men while there is also a conscious awareness from other men who are aware of and trying to address the issue? Men are the issue, or more accurately the concept of obligate masculinity is, but guess what demographic is enforcing that mindset?
Hint: not women, and if you think it is then you don’t listen to women nor men.
Not a dog whistle. I’m most likely more progressive than you, but you keep trying to feel superior to others! That’s definitely not a part of the problem!
Do… do you not see the irony in what you just wrote? Read it back to yourself.
Oh I know it. Irony or not, I know what I’m talking about and you’re yapping like a reactionary fool.
Sure.
Women police the patriarchy plenty.
My experience from square straight married life is that women want men in general to be gentle and kind and whatnot, but they want their own husband to be capable of violence.
At least that was my wife, there were aspects of toxic masculinity that she absolutely encouraged.
Like, one time I got on a busy train with her and another guy got scared of me and left his seat. She sat down and smiled and patted my hand and said “that’s respect right there baby”
And I totally understand the desire to have sex with a big strong not too bright dominant guy, trust me I get it.
It’s not just SOs, mothers often play a huge part in conditioning men for the patriarchy, calling them little soldiers, telling them not to cry, to fight back at the bully at school, etc.
So, because women also have the ability to subjectively be shitty people and internalize misogyny that means no men are to blame for the outlined issues?
Don’t date or marry shitty toxic people.
Thats not a dog whistle
I see you’re having a great time with this post.
I mean, I am, but, that wasn’t a dog whistle.
It was, though.
How so, because I don’t think you’re operating with the correct definition
“Not all men” is a misogynist dog whistle. Point blank.
Literally false
It’s not, though.
You’re wrong