• Cypher@aussie.zone
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    6 days ago

    Terrible take on many levels, this assumes those indigenous populations would never have undergone their own industrial revolutions.

    For reasons ranging from ‘noble savage’ to racist implications that they couldn’t if they tried.

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      from ‘noble savage’ to racist implications that they couldn’t if they tried

      They’re the same picture.

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      To accuse the first nations led Lakota Law Project of racism against themselves is a an actual terrible take.

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      This is such a gross misreading of the post lol

      It literally says “Indigenous people have shown” and not something about them having some innate characteristics that result in their living in balance with the earth. It should be obvious that their idologiy and culture is meant by the post, as it is exactly that what other can actually learn from many indigenous peoples and it is alao exactly what colonialism is actively destroying

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        Absolutely not, without colonialism and given enough time Indigenous peoples will always industrialise to the greatest extent possible given the circumstances.

        Industrialisation is in direct opposition to this idealised ‘harmonious’ living with the land.

        You’re falling afoul of the noble savage fallacy in assuming that these people would not have changed their culture over time, given enough time, and have industrialised themselves.

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          You really like to misunderstand the point , dont you? Like of course ideology and culture can change, that was my whole point…

          Just because I support the statement “Indigenous people have shown that is possible to live in balance with nature”, I dont think this is / was true for every group of indigenous people and that it would stay always like that. Its litetally just a statement that show cases an example of a way of living that humans can have a different role in nature, one that actually strives to keep the balance on earth.

          And me believeing that has nothing to do with the idea of the noble savage, its just an assesment of a way of living that can be studied and maybe even emulated.

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            You can rephrase it as many times as you want, I understood what you said and I’ve already replied to it.