I love it when “anti-capitalist” left glazes capitalist revolutions and their iconography (guillotines), as if toppling of aristocracy and replacing them by rule of capital hasn’t been the status quo for ~150 years at this point
The French revolution was not to install capitalism, it was for increased freedoms, republicanism, and liberal democracy. It was without a doubt a step in the right direction away from autocratic rule, that doesn’t mean it’s the end of the line journey for liberation hence why calls for continuing the class war are made. The guillotine is merely a symbol for that, besides everyone knows these days we advocate for the wood chipper.
No, it was a literal bourgeois revolution where, in an alliance with underclasses in a popular movement, the bourgeois class revolted against the upper classes of the time in an attempt to destroy feudal social relations and allow capitalism to grow more freely (which these relations harmed).
The liberal freedoms were also, in practice, freedoms for the propertied and the wealthy. This meant no more legal privileges or barriers between people if they wanted to start a business or something (as long as you have enough wealth to actually do it), weakening of the state power meaning that the powers that be can’t just suddenly change taxes, grant monopoly or confiscate property without due process, etc…
As I said, it was historically progressive but not anymore, and calling for guillotines is essentially calling for a replacement of capitalist rule by capitalist rule.
Is it that ridiculous considering the nature of that revolution, and the fact that when it does get used, 99 times out of 100 it’s always some moralist-fueled class collaborationist liberal movement that targets specific “evil” bourgeois individuals (i.e. specific billionaires, elected officials, etc) and calls for their downfall/replacement in particular rather than the class society as a whole?
I mean you can certainly use it in any way you want and there’s nothing stopping you, but for those who aren’t operating just on vibes and who know the historical class-context and the modern use of guillotines, it does have the larp connotation and sometimes can feel like a self-report.
It is ridiculous to think in 2026 that people are clamouring to perfectly recreate the French Revolution of the 1700s down to fighting for the same social cause despite them already living in the product of that revolution, and that the symbolism of the guillotine is reflection of their intent to do so.
The guillotine is no less a class sentiment than eat the rich is.
And I have to ask is your ‘proud Zionist’ thing a bit or a genuine belief?
I love it when “anti-capitalist” left glazes capitalist revolutions and their iconography (guillotines), as if toppling of aristocracy and replacing them by rule of capital hasn’t been the status quo for ~150 years at this point
The French revolution was not to install capitalism, it was for increased freedoms, republicanism, and liberal democracy. It was without a doubt a step in the right direction away from autocratic rule, that doesn’t mean it’s the end of the line journey for liberation hence why calls for continuing the class war are made. The guillotine is merely a symbol for that, besides everyone knows these days we advocate for the wood chipper.
No, it was a literal bourgeois revolution where, in an alliance with underclasses in a popular movement, the bourgeois class revolted against the upper classes of the time in an attempt to destroy feudal social relations and allow capitalism to grow more freely (which these relations harmed).
The liberal freedoms were also, in practice, freedoms for the propertied and the wealthy. This meant no more legal privileges or barriers between people if they wanted to start a business or something (as long as you have enough wealth to actually do it), weakening of the state power meaning that the powers that be can’t just suddenly change taxes, grant monopoly or confiscate property without due process, etc…
As I said, it was historically progressive but not anymore, and calling for guillotines is essentially calling for a replacement of capitalist rule by capitalist rule.
That is ridiculous.
Guillotines are a general calling for revolution against the ruling classes, it is not specifically calling the French revolution.
Im french, it’s ok guys the guillotine is free for reproduction. No patents 👌
Is it that ridiculous considering the nature of that revolution, and the fact that when it does get used, 99 times out of 100 it’s always some moralist-fueled class collaborationist liberal movement that targets specific “evil” bourgeois individuals (i.e. specific billionaires, elected officials, etc) and calls for their downfall/replacement in particular rather than the class society as a whole?
I mean you can certainly use it in any way you want and there’s nothing stopping you, but for those who aren’t operating just on vibes and who know the historical class-context and the modern use of guillotines, it does have the larp connotation and sometimes can feel like a self-report.
It is ridiculous to think in 2026 that people are clamouring to perfectly recreate the French Revolution of the 1700s down to fighting for the same social cause despite them already living in the product of that revolution, and that the symbolism of the guillotine is reflection of their intent to do so.
The guillotine is no less a class sentiment than eat the rich is.
And I have to ask is your ‘proud Zionist’ thing a bit or a genuine belief?