And democracy was criticized as “mob rule” in the days of the divine right of kings. Most people today - though they acknowledge its flaws - agree that democracy is better than the alternatives.
“Mob justice” is better than the punitive false justice system we have now.
The police is constrained, at least in theory, by the threat of losing their livelihood, being sued, or going to jail. Powers that be tend to put their fingers on the scale except in the most egregious examples, but at least there’s some sort of counterweight, unlike with a lynch mob.
Well, to begin with, as you well know, that doesn’t work in practice.
I trust in the cops suffering consequences somewhat more then I do a lynch mob. The “voluntary association” who resolved what they viewed as “anti-social behavior” from Emmett Till suffered no consequences for their actions.
Which still has a higher percentage of being held accountable then voluntary associations like the Klan did.
…the Klan is not a voluntary association at all, it’s a white supremacist membership based group which is closed to many. Are you serious?
I in fact did.
No, you did not. I think you understand exactly what I’m trying to get at, and you’re just sticking your head in the sand and refusing to engage with it. Thanks for your time, but I see no purpose in continuing this conversation if you are not going to approach it with good faith. All the best.
Not liking that the klan was a voluntary association that resolved what they viewed to be anti-social behavior (and lets be real, would 100% form again in some form in a anarchist society) doesn’t change that it was one.
No, you did not
Yes, I did. I’m going to presume as you lead with that you didn’t bother to make a point and block you at this point.
Many people are excluded from serving in the police force, yes. Also, an anarchist voluntary association would have no powers beyond those of everyday citizens.
Sounds like mob justice to me, but maybe I’m a cynic.
And democracy was criticized as “mob rule” in the days of the divine right of kings. Most people today - though they acknowledge its flaws - agree that democracy is better than the alternatives.
“Mob justice” is better than the punitive false justice system we have now.
Could you explain how a formal police force with a monopoly on violence isn’t mob justice, but a voluntary association would be?
The police is constrained, at least in theory, by the threat of losing their livelihood, being sued, or going to jail. Powers that be tend to put their fingers on the scale except in the most egregious examples, but at least there’s some sort of counterweight, unlike with a lynch mob.
Well, to begin with, as you well know, that doesn’t work in practice.
Who constrains the police? You mentioned they are under threat - where does that threat come from?
I trust in the cops suffering consequences somewhat more then I do a lynch mob. The “voluntary association” who resolved what they viewed as “anti-social behavior” from Emmett Till suffered no consequences for their actions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till
Already pointed out. Make a point.
There are far, far more cases of police officers not being held responsible for their atrocities.
You didn’t point it out at all - you are saying that someone holds the police responsible for their actions. Who does that?
Which still has a higher percentage of being held accountable then voluntary associations like the Klan did.
I in fact did. Not going to ask again: Make whatever point you’re trying to make.
…the Klan is not a voluntary association at all, it’s a white supremacist membership based group which is closed to many. Are you serious?
No, you did not. I think you understand exactly what I’m trying to get at, and you’re just sticking your head in the sand and refusing to engage with it. Thanks for your time, but I see no purpose in continuing this conversation if you are not going to approach it with good faith. All the best.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_association
Not liking that the klan was a voluntary association that resolved what they viewed to be anti-social behavior (and lets be real, would 100% form again in some form in a anarchist society) doesn’t change that it was one.
Yes, I did. I’m going to presume as you lead with that you didn’t bother to make a point and block you at this point.
are you saying a formal police force isn’t voluntary?
Many people are excluded from serving in the police force, yes. Also, an anarchist voluntary association would have no powers beyond those of everyday citizens.
Are you a bot?
Do we really have a justice system now? (I’m in US, so forgive me if you are in a more civilized place)
Maybe a group of grandmas could be the “mob justice”. I’d trust them more than cops and judges.