Proof that review bombing apparently works
Man, I just want more lower decks.
Or it is proof that the show just wasn’t all that popular.
A lot of people just didn’t care for this show for various reasons. I didn’t bother watching it myself because the premise completely disinterested me, I want nothing to do with the “burn” and the post-collapse Federation that Star Trek Discovery introduced and nothing I’ve heard since the show started airing has changed my opinion that this is just not a show for me.
I want to like Star Trek, I’ve been a fan of it for as long as I can remember. But “I want to like Star Trek” means I want there to be Star Trek series that I like, not that I’m going to just consume whatever product they put that label on and be happy with that. So I’m sorry if you were a fan of this particular show, but personally I’m glad it’s over because I’m hoping that this will now let the IP holders pivot back to a form of Star Trek that I actually enjoy.
What’s wild to me is that it will get a whole second season and can turn opinions around. But nah, they’re gonna cancel it now, but give it a whole ass new season… why? Why not just cancel it now? Makes no sense.
I mean, if you don’t like it, why would you want/justify the second season? If you do like it, why would you want/justify the cancelation?
Contractual obligations.
plus: they expect it to continue losing them money.
plus plus: oh and the show is now being produced by a soon to be immensely indebted corporate entity that’s getting a massive management shake up.
The senators, in a letter to the FCC on Monday, called for a “full and independent” probe of the merger, citing concerns that financing from Middle Eastern sovereign wealth funds and Chinese gaming giant Tencent could give them influence over editorial decisions at CBS News and CNN.
“This constellation of foreign investment from China and from Gulf states, with complex and sometimes competing relationships with the United States, demands rigorous, not perfunctory, review,” the letter reads.
Saudia Arabi’s Public Investment Fund, the Qatar Investment Authority and Abud Dhabi Investment Authority are collectively providing roughly $24 billion in funds to help bankroll Paramount’s bid for Warner Bros. Discovery, according to SEC filings. Oh neat!
Saudi blood money and possibly Tencent, the best owners anyone could ever ask for.
Good thing that consumers are just flush with money these days, and will certainly be eager to keep paying subscription fees.
And if anything with this goes wrong, well, the US Private Equity/Private Investment sector isn’t like, going through a mass panic bankrun or anything like that, so there will definitely be a solid backup plan in case any of this funding turns out to be too fishy!
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The second season was approved in 2024, two fucking years before anyone saw episode 1 of SFA.
I just don’t really understand how television production works, so maybe all this is normal, but it seems weird to me, a layman.
I just thought it was too predictable so it was boring and found myself looking at my phone over being engaged.
I had to watch the first episode twice because I fell asleep. Pacing is a hard thing to get right early in a series.
I’m kinda surprised. I thought this one was critically well received and that the Kurtzman-era fan base really liked it.
I didn’t care for it, personally, but this whole era of Trek has largely been a miss for me and I figured it had a dedicated fan base of its own.
It’s sad to think there’s not gonna be more Star Trek coming out soon, but I guess I was never going to be buying a Paramount+ subscription what with the company being part of the right-wing takeover of media in the US.
The ratings were terrible and it cost $8 million per episode to make. That’s sufficient to get it cancelled even if every Trekkie loved it.
It was critically loved. It hit basically every hallmark of Trek across the board, and then some, but of course the whiners had to be louder than anything else and run a review bombing campaign of the series. I’ve not actually heard any complaints about the show from people that weren’t like yours. Just “Meh, not for me.” The most I’d hear is slight complaints about voices and stuff, but never anything like people would say about Enterprise back in the day or Discovery more recently.
I wish they, the people who have whined and not added a single thing to any sort of conversation about Star Trek, would just fuck off out of the community. They just keep screaming about how things aren’t exactly the same as TNG/DS9/VOY. They have no value to any conversation because the arguments they push are the same ones Boomers push for anything new in the world. They don’t have any leg to stand on in claiming that the show isn’t hopeful or isn’t Trek when it’s just a failure on them for basic media comprehension. That or because how dare they be diverse.
You didn’t do this, but I am genuinely staggered with how many people have been saying how sad they are that Trek is clearly going to be put into a deep freeze when they were the ones who helped put it there by screaming about every single thing released since Enterprise not being identical to a show released, and they really need to start realizing this, 39 fucking years ago. TV has changed. The message of Star Trek hasn’t but TV itself has. Get with it or fuck off.
Edit: Clarity. If you still have a problem with this then I don’t really care what you think.
It was critically loved.
Get with it or fuck off.
How has that attitude paid off?
EVERYONE IS WRONG.
Wishing death on a cohort due to difference of opinion really does not add any value to a conversation or paint you in a good light.
Critically loved apparently has no value if it doesn’t translate to high viewership or whatever reason execs truly had to cancel.
Attacking and hoping for the death of others is big energy but why are you focusing it at your peers who aren’t enjoying your show? Why not consider the executives who actually did the cancelling? Or may have had a hand in directional choices that impacted reach and viewership.
Streaming has changed, arguably the golden age is over, well received, profitable shows have been cancelled because there are cheaper more profitable alternatives.
It sucks that a trek show is ending and I get you are not happy, but you have to critically think about how we got here. There’s no conspiracy that 90-00s trek enjoyers ended it. Ultimately some suits in an office said no to it.
According to your post, having any sort of negative opinion that doesn’t align with you is wrong and should be shunned. How are people supposed to have any conversation when you hold that sort of attitude? I haven’t watched this show but you come off as vile.
Oh no how dare anyone not like the thing that you like.
I struggle to think that network executives make decisions based of internet reviews and forum comments, but rather key performance indicators like viewership numbers and subscription sales.
I don’t bring this up to belittle your point, but to highlight what confuses me.
I was under the impression that this show, and the Kurtzman-era stuff in general, was doing better with the 18-34 demographic than the 35-49 (Essentially, the 90’s Trek fans) group and I would imagine that network executives would be chasing that younger group to, to use a phrase, get em hooked while they’re young. The SFA specifically seemed targetted at these younger audiences and, from what I understood, it worked!
So if it was well received by critics and the younger target demographic, then I struggle to think that the opinions of the older demographic and their lack of adoption could be enough to nail the coffin shut on the show. But also, if the executives or the showrunners did want to chase that 90’s Trek fan base, then their choices were utterly baffling.
I dunno. There’s something off about the close of this era of Trek. Then again, it’s not like the Berman/Braga-era ended elegantly, either.
Edit: Anecdotally, I know exactly one person in real life who liked SFA and it was my 74 year-old father. He’s liked every piece of Star Trek media that’s come out besides Enterprise and Lower Decks (he can’t enjoy animation, too associated with children’s media, so he didn’t even try Prodigy). Everyone else I know (other Millennial Trek fans) found it hard to watch. But, this is, like, an informal poll of maybe three or four dozen Trek fans of all the same ages, not really anywhere close to the data sample that a network like Paramount has.
I think the answer is that the franchise has new owners, who have a different idea of what it should be. Ideologically, they probably want something a lot less progressive. But also strategically, given that the first thing they announced was plans for a new film, they’re probably thinking there’s more money to be found in theatrical releases if the brand is focused there.
I suspect that the next Trek show we see will be spun out from the films and made specifically to support them, similar to what Marvel Studios does.
I hadn’t seen anything about new films, where did you see that?
I think Trek struggles to be captured in films well. The TNG ones were… rough stuff and the Abrams ones never really worked for me, but I guess they kept public attention on the franchise long enough for them to make the Kurtzman-era shows.
I’d agree the franchise has generally been best on the small screen, but there’s no denying that the Abrams films made good money.
The new film isn’t very far along yet, but it’s notable because it’s now the only Trek in any kind I’d development: https://trekmovie.com/2025/11/14/breaking-paramount-developing-new-take-star-trek-film-from-spider-man-homecoming-duo/
