I can only imagine that somewhere, there is an incredibly anti-systemd person screaming I told you! I told ALL OF YOU!!!

Either that or they gave up on that a while back and already switched to BSD.

We just call this a ‘glow up’ these days.

Dark Academia flavored glow up?

Cottage Core?

(Has that one just fully turned into ‘TradWife’ yet?)

GothAltEmoPunk?

(Because Gen Z apparently can’t figure out the difference between these things, because they sorta look the same, and personalities don’t exist, only aesthetics do.)

MomJeans Core?

(JFC, I made that up as a joke, apparently ‘MomCore’ actually is a thing… as are ‘Momiforms’ … smdh…)

I know why she has to have exposed skin, but… it still doesn’t constitute exhibitionism.

As far as the in universe explanation goes…

I mean, does it biologically make sense?

No, not really, but also, its sci-fi.

Does it thematically make sense?

Entirely yes.

All of MGSV rotates around questions of identity, connection/relation to yourself, and others.

Yep, she basically appears to be handcrafted as a beautiful woman who has a ludicrous reason she has to be scantily clad, and she can’t talk back, for roughly equally contrived reasons.

… Can you see past that?

Can you see the person inside, beyond the distracting skin, deeper than that?

Do you grow to respect her and her choices, as a person?

As the game progresses, and she’s in more ludicrous scenes… do you actually find youself feeling disgust as a voyeur… because she shouldn’t be treated that way?

If you just get stuck on the ‘Kojima is just a horndog’ angle, I’d argue you missed the point he was trying to make.

Basically, he keeps trying to get you to objectify her so hard, view her as nothing other than over the top fan service.

But there’s a person in there, a kind of strange, awkward person, but one with a ferocious sense of duty and responsibility, who is extremely capable.

She ‘speaks’ through actions.

Do you see her, or only her outward, superficial appearance?

Its… fairly notable that Kojima’s whole way of doing many ‘cutscenes’ is that they’re often in first person, or can be, and where you are looking, what you are focusing on… can significantly alter the actual scene you experience. Characters react differently, say different things, depending on where you are looking, at what point in the ‘cutscene’.

You’re the often the one choosing or not choosing to oogle her.

You can just not.

As to Paz… yeah, RIP, life and war are full of horrible tragedies, they hurt more when you care about them, when you can empathize with them, when you trust them.

What, did we… think war and conspiracies of power… did not involve innocent young women being forced into impossible situations with basically 0 ‘good’ possible outcomes?

… Have you heard of maybe this whole Epstein files thing?

Tiny smidgen of the amount of horrific shit that’s been done to women in war, that’s happening somewhere right now.

Its ok.

Let the script kiddies squeal and squirrel about.

The elder ones … they were there when the code was written.

Well… the .gov domains are currently run by an orange god emperor… so… pretty close.

… I see where you are going with this, but as with ‘exhibitionism’, … that really strains the definition of fetish.

Thats… basically just preference, in terms of sexual/aesthetic attraction.

A fetish is an obsession with … essentially, a particular body part, a particular kind of activity (which may or may not be typically regarded as related to sex or attraction), a particular kind of clothing, a particular kind of body form/feature.

Regardless of where and how exactly you draw the line there as to what does and does not count as a fetish… a core of the concept is that it is fairly uncommon, and particular, specific, distinctive.

A guy, being broadly attracted to women who are generally considered attractive, just, in that broad of concept… yeah, its heternormative as hell, but its basically the opposite of a fetish.

What is and what is not ‘a fetish’ is basically the opposite of what is extremely socially accepted.

While I totally think that the actual attempt to draw the lines of what is and is not a fetish… reveals the concept itself to be kind of fundamentally nonsensical… the general idea is that it is unusual, and that is the core of what the vast majority of common usage of the word revolves around.

The wild thing is I’m only in my 30s, I’m probably a youngin’, compared to you, I just was around a good deal of old timers, real fuckin’ wizard types.

Also, just a plethora of potential Dennis the Menace jokes.

You described wearing basically a bikini, sheers, some tac rigs, boots, etc…

As exhibitionism.

Thats a signifcant exaggeration / misunderstsnding of exhibitionism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhibitionism

Exhibitionism is basicslly flashing, intentionally showing off the bits that are in this image, not visible, specifically to an audience.

Exhibitionism is a nude bicycle parade.

Exhibitionism is flashing your nude body to a crowd of onlookers.

Exhibitionism is a ‘Free the Nipples!’ protest.

At least by the framework of the game world being a consistent universe unto itself, Quiet is not an exhibitionist: She is a sniper, who prefers to operate very far away from other people.

Sure, if you want to expand exhibitionism to include breaking the 4th wall, to ‘being viewed by the audience of gamers’, then… ok… but… can you see how that creates a standard where any character that is depicted nude, is then an exhibitionist by way of existing in a form of media?

So its pretty innacurate to describe either Quiet, or gamers seeing Quiet, as an exhibitionist, unless she is actually doing an exhibitionism.

Being eye candy is not the same thing as exhibitionism.

Telling someone they are either into viewing exhibitionists, or are themselves an exhibitionist… for seeing a scantily clad character… thats not correct, just factually, unless you want to bend the meaning of exhibitionism to the point that it basicslly breaks.

Sure.

Keep explaining why you’re saying what you’re saying.

Yep, your understanding of the implicit context is such.

Other people can have different implicit understandings of context.

And you still aren’t listening, you’re rationalizing, explaining yourself.

Never owned up to throwing out nonsensical accusations, made against Kojima, but actually said to Not Kojima.

I already explained what you are doing.

I understand.

we’re not talking about the character in a vacuum, we’re talking about kojimas extreme defense of

Deflection / Framing Control

That’s what you’re talking about.

You’re dissatisfied with the canon explanation for Quiet’s exposure, you think Hideo made too big of a deal about it, that Hideo should have just said ‘yep I’m doing fan-service’.

Ricky is just stating that he finds conventionally physically attractive women physically attractive, that this is not a fetish, that wearing clothes that broadly fit the climate and Quiet’s combat role is not exhibitionism.

You keep talking past him, and the original commenter, never acknowledging that you keep throwing out tangential exaggerations, based around Kojima, that don’t apply to the people you’re talking to, the things they are saying.

You’re talking, but you’re not listening.

I too am going to call DNS ‘Dennis’ from now on, lol.

Yeah I’ve had some discussions over time with the whole SQL vs Sequel thing, and what I realized was that…

Well basically, I learned ‘Sequel’ from a bunch of old timers in the Seattle area.

The kind of people who had been writing COBOL since they got back from Vietnam, people who’d actually worked at IBM, still acted like Microsoft was an ‘upstart’, people who’d just offhand tell me about the one time they got ‘deployed’ to Saudi Arabia to flash a compromised BIOS onto hardware destined to be used in Saddam’s air defense network, prior to the Gulf War.

So, they actually literally were there back when SEQUEL was invented.

Well, think of it this way:

China now knows how to shoot down F35s, if you’ve been following other news.

Yeah, sorry Taiwan, between that and the US wasting all of its missiles and interceptors on Iran… and dismantling the SK THAAD system for parts, after two of them got destroyed in the GCC…

Huang is gonna be taking orders, moreso than giving them, in the near future.

SQL is pronounced ‘Sequel’ because it was originaly SEQUEL.

SQL was initially developed at IBM by Donald D. Chamberlin and Raymond F. Boyce after learning about the relational model from Edgar F. Codd[12] in the early 1970s.[13] This version, initially called SEQUEL (Structured English Query Language), was designed to manipulate and retrieve data stored in IBM’s original quasirelational database management system, System R, which a group at IBM San Jose Research Laboratory had developed during the 1970s.[13]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL

It then later evolved, and changed from being an acronym into an initialism, kind of, sort of, mostly for people who are unaware of the etymology.

‘Sequel’ is quite literally the tradtional way to pronounce it.

… I mean, they chose to not hire a babysitter for their date.

What?

I see two tops and two bottoms.

Two doms and two subs.

Two bears and two twinks, two butch and two princesses.

You… can easily read this in a number of ways, that’s arguably the strength of using such non human ‘characters’.

Could be hetero, could be homo, could be … ToolTime-sexual.

If anything, its an endorsement of just stepping outside your normal, traditional boundaries, and in some situations that seems to work out for everyone involved.

Yep.

Nailed it.

No prob!

Nope. Wrong.

Its not a pre bundled flatpak, that runs on top of the core, atomic OS.

Its part of the core, atomic OS, an integral part of it, installed as an rpm package at basically a lower level.