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  • I’ve been using Limo for 2 years now to run 10+gigs of mods for FONV, CP77, and Kenshi, on a Steam Deck.

    I have been doing that since before NMM even claimed to support modding CP77 on Linux. It never really correctly did.

    Limo is not that hard, it just isn’t an easy button.

    And oh dear god the horror, you have to download all the files you want instead of just clicking once to download a collection.

    And even worse, use your brain a little bit to figure out how to unfuckup mistakes make by amateur modders, gasp, the horror!

    I’ve been modding since the 90s and its actually hilarious to me the level of no-thinking, on demand convenience people demand.

    Go try to set up a full KSP Realism Overhaul install.

    They just straight up tell you that if you can’t figure out how to follow their instructions, which are correct and do work… you’re not smart enough to play the mod overhaul.

    We need more of that energy, to counteract consumerism and AI driven brainrot.




  • Nah, its more like they spent a year or two trying to figure out how to actually support linux, and disastrously failed, and the new plan is ‘let proton handle it’.

    They spent a few years trying to make a linux piece of software, … and have totally abandoned it as a failure, and are now just saying the new plan is to… make the old app … do the thing … that they initially started the project of the new app to do … because they could not figure out how to make the old app do it.

    … Uh huh.


    They’re claiming they’re going to support SteamOS and also the hardware of a SteamDeck or SteamMachine.

    This makes no sense.

    Blam, I’m running Bazzite on my Deck or Machine… does their new idea of Vortex work on that?

    Does it… only work on SteamOS, so… its… gonna be a flatpak?

    If its gonna be a flatpak, it would work on nearly any linux OS, so why say its only targetting SteamOS?

    Or… will it require you going into SteamOS, manually disabling the thing that by default prevents you from fucking with the core read only by default OS, and setting up custom Arch packages from the AUR, or will they have you do a fully manual install?

    None of what they have said actually makes any sense.


    Conclusion: They’re utterly incompetent with all things linux and have no idea what they are even talking about, much less how to create actual linux software.

    Meanwhile Limo does 90% of what you need a native linux mod manager version of a Nexus app to do, has done so for 2 years now, and is free for them to fork.

    But they’re not doing that.

    … they’re morons.

    NexusMods is to mods as CrunchyRoll is to anime.



  • Uh no it wouldnt.

    Just download the mods however you would download them.

    Organize them and ‘install’ them with the mod organizer, MO2, Limo, whatever.

    Most torrent managers allow you to paste in a block of links to a bunch of torrents, all at once.

    If you wanna release a mod collection… you just make a list that includes all the links to the mods, and then another smaller torrent that is just the load order file, or instructions for how to set up the mod manager with the load order.

    Download managers for non torrents still exist.

    Mega still exists.

    You could set up an RSS system that does 90% of this.

    I’ve been modding, making mods and shit since the 90s.

    Its only fairly recently that people expect mod manager programs to handle downloading the mods and keep them up to date.

    This is not necessary.


    You are thinking of a mod manager as a thing that manages the downloading.

    This is a fundamentally unnecessary concept, we’ve solved the problem of ‘how do i keep a bunch of files downloaded and up to date’ in a thousand different ways since dawn of the internet.

    And its also a fundamentally bad idea with specifically mods, because one random change from a mod in either a collection or your own custom load order… well that can introduce cascading breakages… because almost no one who publishes a mod collection actually bothers to constantly keep sure that all updates all keep working together.

    They have no idea what their mod is or isn’t compatible with untill enough people complain.

    There’s no real, solid ‘maintainer’ thats constantly correctly auditing all of that, the way you have with say the curation of core linux libraries.

    …this is only a catch if you want an easy button.

    If you want an easy button, go pay Nexus for it.

    It will break often, but it is ‘easy’, I guess.


    Also I2P is an entire alternate internet standard sort of in the way Tor and onion sites are, except its basically ‘what if the entire internet was torrents, and also encrypted’.

    There’s basically no way to download anything from I2P without it going through a million hops and coming from a million different people.

    It solves the ‘how do we store and deliver all these files’ problem by… you set up the main site with the main copy of the file, but everyone else who also has the file can also contribute to helping anyone else download them, anyone else connected to the network helps route traffic for everyone else.


  • I’ve been using Limo, on Bazzite, to mod Cyberpunk 2077, Kenshi, and Fallout NewVegas, on a SteamDeck, with 10s of gigs of mods for each … for 2 years now.

    Yep, it doesn’t have all the bells and whistles, isn’t as automated as far as auto support for paying to download 100 gig messes of modpacks that don’t work correctly, easily.

    Yep, it requires a bit of learning how it works, and yep, a few particularly invasive/reconstructive/substantial mods require weird little work arounds.

    But that is basically always going to be the case.

    And Limo gives you all the tools you need to put in a bit of your own effort and figure out how to make things work, or identify things that just won’t work.

    A mod manager cannot be an easy button, because mods by their nature are made by amateurs, are experimental, are mutually incompatible.

    Trying to make a mod manager that is an easy button is a fundamentally doomed to fail idea, unless you think you can come up with a solution to handle every weird thing that ever has been or ever will be done by a modder, for every game, ever.

    You would think these Nexus people would understand this automatically, having been doing what they’ve been doing for what like a decade or two now?

    Mods and modding should not be a mass of consumers demanding to be served by a service provider who attempts to wrangle and manage tens or hundreds of thousands of of mod makers making and publishing mods.

    That’s paywalls, that’s paid for mod stores, that’s a service provider that controls the IP snd distrobution rights of everyone involved way way more than it should.

    You need the chaos of a bunch of random shit and people who may or may not work well together, you need the end user to actually assume the responsibility of having to put in some actual thought.

    Trying to standardize and systemetize all of it for convenience’s sake destroys the very spirit of mods and modding.



  • Yeah so whats happening here is their ‘dev team’ and/or its leadership are a bunch of fucking morons.

    That’s basically the only way this can happen.

    Oh the project we deprecated, so that we can make a new thing that does new stuff?

    Uh.

    Um.

    The old thing is actually better at the new stuff.

    Turns out all the work we did for the last year or two was pretty much completely useless as anything other than an expensive lesson in how to fail at software development.

    Whoops!

    But that’s no big deal, that’s

    Nothing dramatic or groundbreaking,

    It’s just:

    just small problems that added up over time to slow us down.

    What they’re almost certainly doing is entirely giving up on figuring how anything to do with linux works, and … they’re just gonna (try to) make it work through Proton.

    These people are clowns.


    NexusMods is to PC modding as CrunchyRoll is to Anime:

    They’re a bunch of amateurs who have no idea what they’re doing, and basically just ended up being the default ‘provider’ of what they provide by accident.

    They are primarily social media manager types first, everything else second or third.

    Their expertise is posting on forums and aura policing, not actually getting anything done or thinking out a complex process with strategic tradeoff decisions that have to be made and stuck to.


  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comtoFunny@sh.itjust.worksGirl dinner
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    Thank you, this makes so much more sense.

    I also love ‘Girl Dinner’, and I’m just a lazy guy.

    I just tend to call it a mega-snack, and eat slightly different combos of snack foods than I guess the stereotypical (typical?) girl snack foods, but they still aim to hit the same spectrum of food groups and nutrients.


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    So I’m a guy and that looks like a fine meal for a night of drinking to me.

    The presentation in a comically oversized martini glass is perhaps a bit silly, but…

    Yeah this just looks like a pre-game meal of champions to me, if you maybe swap out the croutons for something like breaded chicken nuggets or smaller breaded tenders.


  • Oh I entirely believe you.

    Hell hath no wrath like an annoyed high functioning autist.

    I’ve … had my own 6 month black out periods where I came up with something extremely comprehensive and ‘neat’ before.

    Seriously, bootstrapping all this is incredibly impressive.

    I would… hope that you can find collaborators, to keep this thing alive in the event you get into a car accident (metaphorical or literal), or, you know, are completely burnt out after this.

    … but yeah, it is… yet another immensely ironic aspect of being autistic that we’ve been treated and maligned as robots our whole lives, and then when the normies think they’ve actually built the AI from sci fi, no, turns out its basically extremely talented at making up bullshit and fudging the details and being a hypocrite, which… appalls the normies when they have to look into a hyperpowered mirror of themselves.

    And then, of course, to actually fix this, its some random autist no one has ever heard of (apologies if you are famous and i am unaware of this), who is putting in an enormous of effort, that… most likely, will not be widely recognized.

    … fucking normies man.




  • This seems astonishingly more useful than the current paradigm, this is genuinely incredible!

    I mean, fellow Autist here, so I guess I am also… biased towards… facts…

    But anyway, … I am currently uh, running on Bazzite.

    I have been using Alpaca so far, and have been successfully running Qwen3 8B through it… your system would address a lot of problems I have had to figurr out my own workarounds for.

    I am guessing this is not available as a flatpak, lol.

    I would feel terrible to ask you to do anything more after all of this work, but if anyone does actually set up a podman installable container for this that actually properly grabs all required dependencies, please let me know!