Godot actually has uh…

https://github.com/func-godot/func_godot_plugin

Basically… works to both rip and also create Quake, Quake 2, Half Life 1 maps.

Its also a pretty extensive framework.

If you wanna step up a bit from a Doom clone, to a Quake clone… you could do it with this.

There’s also Godot VMF…

https://github.com/H2xDev/GodotVMF

Can actually rip and convert HL2, TF2, L4D… basically Source up to roughly 2013 maps.

I don’t think its much of a map creator/editor though? I think the idea is you just actually make your map in Hammer, and then basically import it into Godot.

I managed to … mostly correctly … decompile.or convert or whatever, some maps.from NeoTokyo, an old HL2 mod, so… will probably at least mostly work for HL2 mods?

It does rely on the actual SourceSDK though, so… probably not ok for commercial use?

I2P

I2P!

I2PPPPPPPPP!!!

We can build another internet here, if we want to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I2P

Imagine p2p torrents, but crazy encrypted, and you build an internet out of that. That’s basically I2P.

Everyone is a dns/routing server for everyone else, and no one actually knows whose traffic is going where.

If you stay inside of I2P, its basically impossible to be de anonymized, unlike with TOR, where a government LE or Intel agency can just operate nodes and de anonymize people.

Sometimes, I want to ride my bicycle.

Sometimes, I don’t.

So basically:

His companies are hilariously insolvent, so he rolls them all together and does the biggest IPO of all time to raise money.

But he still needs more money.

So then he tries to do a corporate bond issuance… doesn’t go super duper well.

So he still needs more money.

Welp, ok then, jack up fees, whatever, not very original, but does at least kind of work.

Any takers as to whether or not he’ll still need more money?

If you guess correctly, you get a free Neuralink installed in your head that you can send OTA bluetooth firmware overrides to nearby devices with your brain!

Or well, maybe it works… maybes its the opposite of that. Whatever.

… But you can recharge them with your solar roof tiles! And then get in your Tesla Roadster! And then take a Starship ICBM flight to Hong Kong or Moscow or Buenos Aires or Rome! And then take the hyperloop to Antarctica!

Ok, double post, but I may have just answered my own question at the end there:

https://github.com/Zylann/godot_voxel

Pro: Seems to actually do what I was trying to do, and then some, holy shit.

Con: Apparently, the main version of this is basically a rolling fork of Godot, because it needs so much to be done in c++… and… well, that might mean it runs into the exact problem that spawned this whole conversation: reliably reproduceable builds in different OS contexts.

As far as I can tell, if you want a decent level of tooling…

I dunno, so far I haven’t been able to find anything more … straightforward but also powerful if you know what you’re doing… combo… than Godot + GECS.

GECS is a … honestly shockingly well developed entity component system framework for Godot.

If you wanna do a 2D game, Godot basically already has everything you need, but yeah… 3D isn’t quite there yet, though it is making strides. The recent IK rework does help bridge a major … feature parity gap with more ‘big boy’ engines.

GECS helps a good deal too, but yeah, its not Source(2) lol.

I dunno shit why not: Any chance you know of something like a Godot 3d level mapping system based around bsps or octrees or something?

I know there are voxel frameworks, but… lot of people are looking to make something other than minecraft.

I’ve been futzing about trying to figure out how to cajole some system of nested 3d gridmaps into a kind of octree system, but with vertices inside of the grid space, and then you’d have the equivalent of a 3d clipmap deciding which chunks of the grid space to render verticies at what level of precision… but i feel like im trying to weave together hyperspace half the time, which hurts my overdeveloped ape brain.

Step one of ‘what engine am I going to develop on?’

Does it natively support Vulkan?

Step two:

Can I build the engine from source, on my debian/fedora based distro, in under 30 minutes, without having to discover that the documentation for how to do this is wrong?

If the answers to either of those are ‘No’, gtfo here.

This is the actual explanation.

Turns out, Unity on Linux… kinda sucks!

Just, literally at the engine level, outside of all the other shenanigans.

Because Linux is an after thought for them.

Here, in a nutshell, is my theory for why what you are describing is so common:

Almost nobody develops a game on Linux, with an engine you can build from source, and use to make the game, on Linux.

If you do… do that… your Linux native game will probably run fine.

But! Almost every major game engine you’ve ever heard of, that says it supports Linux, in the sense of you can build/run the game engine itself on Linux?

They’re full of shit.

Their engines do not actually work on Linux, half the time you can’t even compile them, they don’t even know half the dependencies they actually have. They throw insane errors all the time, because you’re just alpha testing their attempt at porting their engine to Linux.

They just say ‘we added Linux support!’ and nobody ever actually tries to verify this, because Linux based game devs are using one of the fairly small number of engines that… actually work on Linux.

(Hah, or they’re basically just building their own engine, or layering together actually platform agnostic rendering/physics/networking/whatever libraries into basically a custom engine)

Valve, for example, has figured it out.

HL2? Linux native build, running on SteamOS?

Works great.

Godot? Use GDScript, not C#, build the game on Linux?

Also works great.

Most games devs are actually just full of shit when they pretend they understand anything about Linux.

Maybe check out Road To Vostok if you want to see what one guy can do with Godot and a few years.

Its not impossible… most games devs just have God Complexes, its just how it is, very rare to find some that are both humble and competent.

Dog catches car.

Is dissapointed.

Gee I wonder if there could be some reason why major ‘gaming’ news sites are chomping at the bit, ready to run any story headline that makes Valve look bad…

Maybe it has something to do with

Its really wild.

Like, a few years ago, I could have at least held my nose and said ‘well, Windows has so many business oriented tools and services, that do at least 90% work for what any particular business could need, that… sure, fine, makes sense as a business OS, not a personal use OS, but enterprise sure fine whatever.’

Now? Now after CoPilot/GitHub/vibe coding destroying half of Windows… the insane CVEs in the last few years, every tech CEO developing AI Psychosis? US gov policy just literally being: ‘Our software spying is extremely legitimate, everyone elses makes them a terrrorist, and also you’re a terrorist if you don’t like our spying’?

Fucking no way, you’d have to be ignorant, insane or an idiot to want to use Windows, for literally anything.

They could at least be… subtle, or clever, or have some kind of even slightly convincing rhetorical position/explanation.

But nope, just balls to the wall ‘This PC = OUR PC’

Yep yep yep.

Tons of manufacturers are offering barebones builds of many models of miniPCs and similar, because… the environment is just that insane.

They can do all the work of designing their cases and boards and SOCs or cpu/apu/npu integrated mobos and such…

But RAM? SSDs? Sometimes GPUs?

They can sell more if they do 90% of the work, and the … basically enthusiast by definition consumer base does the other 10% of ‘final assembly’.

If a barebones model doesn’t appeal to somebody… okey dokey then, good luck finding a better deal without any work on your end, convenience maxxing consumer.

Do people not like, get, that most PC components are ultimately made by … cartels? Do people not get that?

They’re literally cartels, they just make and sell computer components, not cocaine.

No you’re not.

Turns out… it is actually pretty hard to build an SFF PC with comparable gaming power, for comparable or cheaper… if you’re not a giganto megacorp that can muscle in for priority on components.

Not even they can even get bulk discounts now, not really… thats why all the console makers had to jump up their prices too.

Goy and goyim are also just actually words that are fairly commonly used by many English speaking Jews.

Fair amount of other Yiddish and Hebrew words other than goy/goyim are used this way as well.

Its like… an additional vernacular.

Chutzpah, means basically … shameless audacity, or … arrogant presumption of privilege, something like that.

Oi Vey! … basically ‘Woe is me!’, but also kind of more like ‘Oh shit/fuck/no’… sort of.

… I’m not saying you can’t use these words and phrases as like, part of a cariacature, but they are also just words and phrases you’d have probably picked up, growing up in a Jewish family, or around them.

Similar to how you’d have an additional vernacular set if you were from some other cultural/ethic/religious background…

… not exactly the same, but Evangelical Christians for example have a weird tendency to pluralize ‘evidence’ into ‘evidences’, use ‘discernment’ in common speech waaay more often than others do, etc.

No, its not the same.

In the past, the younger generation was broadly more literate and better informed about the world, than their parents

Gen Z and Alphas are worse.

In the past, the younger generation had an at least potentially brighter future to look forward to.

Gen Z and Alpha have a guaranteed Great Depression 2.0, water wars, failing infrastructure, exploding food and housing costs, a rapidly ossifying neo-feudal class structure, massive amounts of debt.

The mismanagement of climate change in the last roughly half century guarantees all of that in the West, and Global South, barring essentially a literal miracle.

In the past, younger generations were not absorbed into digital screens nearly 24/7 that literally program behaviors into them, where those behaviors are finetuned to turn them into mindless consumers or some kind of cult adherent, or gambling addict.

The mass proflieration of for profit social media acts as drugs do, especially so on younger, less developed minds.

Sure, the introduction of TV did something of the same kind, but not to the same extent, or scale.

If you think this is the same, you’re simply unfamiliar with the relevant data and studies, and dynamics at play.

… spread the word?

Ok.

Well…

… don’t you know, about the bird?

Well, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THE BIRD IS THE WORD!

Pa Pa Pa Pa Pa OOM MAH MOW MOW

Pa Pa OOM MAH MOW MOW

Pa Pa OOM MAH MOW MOW

WELL DONT YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE BIRD

WELL EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THE BIRD IS THE WORD

Suuuuuuurrrrrrfiiinnnn Biiiiiiirrrrrrrddddd

-dies-

Its getting genuienly sad that younger Gen Z and Alphas just literally have no idea how to be people.

Its wild growing up an undiagnosed autist, and now … I had better social skills than the average normie adolescent does these days.

Personalities are just, whatever is trending on TikTok.

Of course there are exceptions to this, but dear god its sad to watch.

Yes.

That… that is what creativity is.

Its not always… sensible, or … broadly liked… but yeah, people things up… is creativity.

If you’re quoting some old famous saying?

Somebody, at some point, said that for the first time in history.

I was gonna say, entirely seriously, the family that cooks together, stays together.

… Also the beans tend to be even thicker than queso, so… make sure to get that right too, lol