Ah! The lyrics page I copied from must have messed that up, hah!

… the verses get increasingly ridiculous.

By the end, you have:

And I’ve never licked a spark plug

And I’ve never sniffed a stink bug

And I’ve never painted daisies on a big red rubber ball

And I’ve never bathed in yogurt

And I don’t look good in leggings

…

And we’ve never been to Boston in the fall!

… this is all being sung by a 90s CGI/cartoon cucumber with a face, amongst a bunch of other CGI fruits and vegetables, dressed as pirates, basically on beach lounge chairs, on a moored like, galleass or something.

I think ostensibly the joke for the adults is supposed to be like, a guy or some guys who just own a boat, but never actually take it out, just use it as an excuse to get away from the house.

I feel like the “raised fairly extreme Christian -> fuck basically all that noise” demographic is uh, kinda either underrepresented or unacknowledged on lemmy.

I may no longer be religious, but, goddamnit, that song is a banger.

I’ve previously … apparently just completely introduced a fair amount of people to the NRA’s uh Eddie Eagle, the gun safety mascot.

I’m guessing there is actually a fairly large amount of nerds who were raised American Christian in the 90s, who also basically had dysfunctional families, and thus spent a lot of time on their computers and the internet, trying to escape that.

Well, I’ve never been [to] Greenland

And I’ve never been to Denver

And I’ve never buried treasure in St. Louis or St. Paul

And I’ve never been to Moscow

And I’ve never been to Tampa

And I’ve never been to Boston in the fall

'Cause we’re the Pirates

Who don’t do anything

We just stay home and lie around

And if you ask us to do anything

We’ll just tell you:

…

We don’t do anything.

EDIT:

Viking Hippie found a typo!

If you liked STALKER, maybe revisit it with Stalker GAMMA.

More or less, its a huge compilation of mods, tweaks… … i think they may have actually rewritten/repaired significant chunks of the engine itself… its kinda sorta like Deus Ex Revision, its basically a whole bunch of modules and different mods, with an easier way than fumbling with an external mod manager and load orders to try and make shit work.

https://www.stalkergamma.com/

On that tangent, while its… not exactly as thoroughly combat / survival focused, and is certainly clunky by modern standards… the original Deus Ex is maybe a good recommend, as it comes fairly close to hitting all the other things you mention liking, although… from a different angle, basically.

Also, now… this might sound like a bit of an oddball but… State of Decay 2.

Yeah, its humans vs zombies, yeah, its got Microsoft bs in the way of just being able to play the game (unless you acquire a cough custom version cough)…

But it actually has pretty darn good combat mechanics, for a console native game, can actually meaningfully difficulty scale from ‘baby easy’ to ‘this is actually impossible’, and whats more, a whole sort of set of subsystems for actually managing your survivors and your resources and maintaining and improving your kind of home base…

I find it to be a similsr kind of… high tensions, pretty immsersive, pretty brutal, pretty dark, kind of game that can basically grab hold of you and not let go.

But, it doesn’t really have much of a proper ‘story’… in the way of most single player games… but but, it kinda sorta makes up for that in that characters in your party, they’ll get stressed out or be in good moods, they can have fights, have rivalries kinda…

And this can kind of generate a kind of emergent plot, if you care to keep track of it, maybe in something like how you could say the show ‘Survivor’ has a plot.

Play with your band of survivors enough, and you will have emotions when something really bad happens to one of em.

I dunno. Maybe its a bit of a reach, for what you were asking for, but it lit up enough of the same parts of my brain.

Oh, here’s another oddball suggestion that might either totally be your thing, or not your thing at all:

G-STRING

Yep, weird name, no, not a porn game.

This game spent like… 15 fucking years being an in development Half Life 2 mod, by apparently a solo dev?.. and it… its weird, but its certainly a story driven, action shooter, in an extremely oppressive dystopian setting.

Yup, gotta x2 this one.

Maybe not perfect in a gameplay sense… but holy shit, its arguably actually a horror game just wearing the skin of an action shooter.

For the love of god, do not do this while the thing is plugged in.

I mean… sounds pretty interesting to me!

Why would anyone want root kernel access to a PC?

Oh, uh, to be able to read anything on the entire PC, also be able to interdict and then modify literally any ongoing process or command.

… Palantir is very very hungry for data, after all.

And you can make money, if you sell it to them.

I can only imagine that somewhere, there is an incredibly anti-systemd person screaming I told you! I told ALL OF YOU!!!

Either that or they gave up on that a while back and already switched to BSD.

We just call this a ‘glow up’ these days.

Dark Academia flavored glow up?

Cottage Core?

(Has that one just fully turned into ‘TradWife’ yet?)

GothAltEmoPunk?

(Because Gen Z apparently can’t figure out the difference between these things, because they sorta look the same, and personalities don’t exist, only aesthetics do.)

MomJeans Core?

(JFC, I made that up as a joke, apparently ‘MomCore’ actually is a thing… as are ‘Momiforms’ … smdh…)

I know why she has to have exposed skin, but… it still doesn’t constitute exhibitionism.

As far as the in universe explanation goes…

I mean, does it biologically make sense?

No, not really, but also, its sci-fi.

Does it thematically make sense?

Entirely yes.

All of MGSV rotates around questions of identity, connection/relation to yourself, and others.

Yep, she basically appears to be handcrafted as a beautiful woman who has a ludicrous reason she has to be scantily clad, and she can’t talk back, for roughly equally contrived reasons.

… Can you see past that?

Can you see the person inside, beyond the distracting skin, deeper than that?

Do you grow to respect her and her choices, as a person?

As the game progresses, and she’s in more ludicrous scenes… do you actually find youself feeling disgust as a voyeur… because she shouldn’t be treated that way?

If you just get stuck on the ‘Kojima is just a horndog’ angle, I’d argue you missed the point he was trying to make.

Basically, he keeps trying to get you to objectify her so hard, view her as nothing other than over the top fan service.

But there’s a person in there, a kind of strange, awkward person, but one with a ferocious sense of duty and responsibility, who is extremely capable.

She ‘speaks’ through actions.

Do you see her, or only her outward, superficial appearance?

Its… fairly notable that Kojima’s whole way of doing many ‘cutscenes’ is that they’re often in first person, or can be, and where you are looking, what you are focusing on… can significantly alter the actual scene you experience. Characters react differently, say different things, depending on where you are looking, at what point in the ‘cutscene’.

You’re the often the one choosing or not choosing to oogle her.

You can just not.

As to Paz… yeah, RIP, life and war are full of horrible tragedies, they hurt more when you care about them, when you can empathize with them, when you trust them.

What, did we… think war and conspiracies of power… did not involve innocent young women being forced into impossible situations with basically 0 ‘good’ possible outcomes?

… Have you heard of maybe this whole Epstein files thing?

Tiny smidgen of the amount of horrific shit that’s been done to women in war, that’s happening somewhere right now.

Its ok.

Let the script kiddies squeal and squirrel about.

The elder ones … they were there when the code was written.

Well… the .gov domains are currently run by an orange god emperor… so… pretty close.

… I see where you are going with this, but as with ‘exhibitionism’, … that really strains the definition of fetish.

Thats… basically just preference, in terms of sexual/aesthetic attraction.

A fetish is an obsession with … essentially, a particular body part, a particular kind of activity (which may or may not be typically regarded as related to sex or attraction), a particular kind of clothing, a particular kind of body form/feature.

Regardless of where and how exactly you draw the line there as to what does and does not count as a fetish… a core of the concept is that it is fairly uncommon, and particular, specific, distinctive.

A guy, being broadly attracted to women who are generally considered attractive, just, in that broad of concept… yeah, its heternormative as hell, but its basically the opposite of a fetish.

What is and what is not ‘a fetish’ is basically the opposite of what is extremely socially accepted.

While I totally think that the actual attempt to draw the lines of what is and is not a fetish… reveals the concept itself to be kind of fundamentally nonsensical… the general idea is that it is unusual, and that is the core of what the vast majority of common usage of the word revolves around.

The wild thing is I’m only in my 30s, I’m probably a youngin’, compared to you, I just was around a good deal of old timers, real fuckin’ wizard types.

Also, just a plethora of potential Dennis the Menace jokes.

You described wearing basically a bikini, sheers, some tac rigs, boots, etc…

As exhibitionism.

Thats a signifcant exaggeration / misunderstsnding of exhibitionism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhibitionism

Exhibitionism is basicslly flashing, intentionally showing off the bits that are in this image, not visible, specifically to an audience.

Exhibitionism is a nude bicycle parade.

Exhibitionism is flashing your nude body to a crowd of onlookers.

Exhibitionism is a ‘Free the Nipples!’ protest.

At least by the framework of the game world being a consistent universe unto itself, Quiet is not an exhibitionist: She is a sniper, who prefers to operate very far away from other people.

Sure, if you want to expand exhibitionism to include breaking the 4th wall, to ‘being viewed by the audience of gamers’, then… ok… but… can you see how that creates a standard where any character that is depicted nude, is then an exhibitionist by way of existing in a form of media?

So its pretty innacurate to describe either Quiet, or gamers seeing Quiet, as an exhibitionist, unless she is actually doing an exhibitionism.

Being eye candy is not the same thing as exhibitionism.

Telling someone they are either into viewing exhibitionists, or are themselves an exhibitionist… for seeing a scantily clad character… thats not correct, just factually, unless you want to bend the meaning of exhibitionism to the point that it basicslly breaks.

Sure.

Keep explaining why you’re saying what you’re saying.

Yep, your understanding of the implicit context is such.

Other people can have different implicit understandings of context.

And you still aren’t listening, you’re rationalizing, explaining yourself.

Never owned up to throwing out nonsensical accusations, made against Kojima, but actually said to Not Kojima.

I already explained what you are doing.

I understand.

we’re not talking about the character in a vacuum, we’re talking about kojimas extreme defense of

Deflection / Framing Control

That’s what you’re talking about.

You’re dissatisfied with the canon explanation for Quiet’s exposure, you think Hideo made too big of a deal about it, that Hideo should have just said ‘yep I’m doing fan-service’.

Ricky is just stating that he finds conventionally physically attractive women physically attractive, that this is not a fetish, that wearing clothes that broadly fit the climate and Quiet’s combat role is not exhibitionism.

You keep talking past him, and the original commenter, never acknowledging that you keep throwing out tangential exaggerations, based around Kojima, that don’t apply to the people you’re talking to, the things they are saying.

You’re talking, but you’re not listening.