Personally, I prefer RetroDeck… you should definitely pick only one, trying to run both at the same time will probably cause you to rage quit from sanity, lol.

I mean, the actual answer is basically yes.

People who routinely tailgate have anger management problems.

If you are tailgating because you are in some specific, actual emergency situation, getting to a hospital, that’s one thing.

If you tailgate habitually, you almost certainly have some kind of condition that involves anger management issues or emotional regulation problems.

There we go!

Thank you for actually answering my question!

… that is probably technically more accurate.

He’d end up with… an even worse Joker smile, kind of.

Uh, basically 0 Linux distros monetize their OS.

There are a lot of linux distros, and the few that do monetize their OS are the exception to the rule.

The vast majority of Linux OSs… they’re not selling a product or service like Windows.

The… code… is open source.

That means anyone can, and people often do, copy the entire thing, make some tweaks, kablamo!

New Linux OS.

Its kinda the whole point of libre software.

It doesn’t operate by the norms of propietary software, profit motives.

As to your second part… you are the one claiming Canonical does some significant service for or to Linux as a whole.

Ok, so, I used to run and admin dbs and such.

Sometimes, a thing you can do, if you think some system or subsystem is just broken or useless or is already effectively fully deprecated…

Well, you build up your new alternative, tell people to switch over to it, and then one day you just turn off the old system, unnannounced.

Then, if you get flooded with emails from people ssying they can’t do their work for some reason, you now know all these goobers have not been paying attention to their team lead and your emails telling them to switch away from Old System, for the past 3 months.

You just yank it out and see what breaks.

And if nothing really breaks… then why were we spending time and money keeping it working?

So, if we view all of Linux as a larger ecosystem, and we yank out Canonical…

What, in the larger ecosystem, breaks?

You are the one who said they do very importsnt things for the ecosystem.

To which I again say: Such as?

If they are important, things would strain or break if they disappeared.

If they can disappear and no one outside of Ubuntu users notices… then… they were not important to the larger ecosystem.

… then just block him, if you don’t enjoy interacting with him?

But also, nothing he’s said here is untrue or misleading.

Its, again, quite relevant to a discussion of Canonincal’s business practices and how they contribute to Linux more broadly.

If you don’t know, about a decade ago, Canonical kind of fucked over GNOME, said they’d make their own DE, and then basically never did.

Hence my earlier quip about Canonical being the reason GNOME devs are… lets say, very strong willed and set in their ways, these days.

GNOME != Canonical.

The only actual numbers I can find are that Canonical donates $120k a year to all other open source projects, but I can’t find any breakdown of how much of that $120k goes to GNOME, or what all of those projects are.

… This is part of why I was asking if you could clarify for me, what it is that Canonical does exactly, in terms of helping out the Linux ecosystem.

Correction: Step-Sister (hopefully?) Fucker.

… they… do have very similar facial structures though… oh no…

Adult babies exist, and they throw temper tantrums too.

Just because someone is a parent doesn’t mean they’re qualified to be one.

I think your llama’s ears are suffering from some kind of malformed whitespace problem.

… guess you better pony up that money for the update that fixes it, lol.

Ah ok, that makes sense!

Oh, uh, that’s over at PopOS!, who are basically actually doing / trying to do what Canonical said they were gonna do, 5-10 years ago.

Hah, fair enough, I was still a Linux n00b back in even 2012.

I have tried to study the history I missed in retrospect, but it sounds like you just directly experienced it starting from an earlier point in time than I did.

I’ll grant you that they are not redhat, but again, tons of other teams behind other distros do some or all of what you just mentioned.

And… almost all, if not nearly all of them, do not monetize their OS.

Is… Canonical uniquely important, in some way?

Poof them out of existence, and what, outside of their own direct projects, breaks?

I mean, I also dislike tankies, but simply having a .ml user account does not automatically make someone a tankie.

Also, they’re not concern trolling.

What they brought up is highly, directly relevant, and it also is not a hypothetical, its … just reality.

I don’t think you know what ‘tankie’ or ‘concern trolling’ mean.

Wait, did they actually fire the rockets during a 747 detach test flight?

No, I was genuienly asking.

Yep, they make a distro.

Lots of orgs make distros.

This isn’t a decade ago, when Ubuntu was … leagues more generally user friendly than most other distros.

What do they do for the broader linux ecosystem, outside of their own distro, other than snaps?

You said they contribute to the ecosystem.

How do they do that?

sad chonker noises

… time to re-boot development on Hannah Montana Linux, it is then…

You DID NOT activate Linux!

wrecking ball crashes through both your desktop, and also random parts of the actual file structure

something something “keyring service not properly configured” something something

Ahah, ah… yeah, yep, uh, you got me, stinkin little coward over here.

But uh hey, I could always try that out on your PC, right big bro?