One of the reasons I no longer work at a non profit group of homeless shelters in the US is because the board fucking contracted consulting with a private security company that worked with and had many IDF people in it, for our shelter security protocols.

That and I was adamantly opposed to using any Microsoft service to handle any of our data on our homless and in need ‘clients’.

I was about 5 years ahead of the curve on ‘MSFT is a data / PII security nightmare’, just look at basically all of Europe right now, but you can perhaps imagine how that attitude doesn’t fly so well in Seattle.

I’m not really trying to critique you, I just know that a ton of people only read the headline or don’t read things thoroughly, or don’t even click into the actual article at all.

I am just adding my 2 cents as someone with a degree in economics, so I’m not citing the article, I’m citing my years of education in economics and years of work that made use of it.

The article does not really go into the difference between US and UK law around monopolies, so I wanted to explore that a bit myself.

Also, when you say ‘the first lines of the linked article says what I said’… do you mean the OP linked article, or the lexology link that I provided?

Because the IGN article says nothing about whether simply being a monopoly is illegal, that’s why I provided the lexology link, to clarify that.

Sorry if I am not quite understanding what you are saying.

This is a great write up to which I can only add that I know that in the ongoing US case, Valve has been arguing that not only is the 30% cut not particularly onerous, and is actually pretty close to the industry norm…

… they also make the argument that Steam provides much, much more to both the consumer and the prospective game seller that…well they just do actually offer many more features and services than existing comparable platforms.

The DLC thing is an interesting idea, but… oh god, basically, is my database manager brain’s response to that.

You’d have to construct like a shared standard of game key liscenses across all digital platforms, you know, the not unlike the kind of thing every single idiot a few years back claimed would be possible with their NFT games.

This is… an interesting idea, but I don’t see how you could actually implement this in practice without basically creating a government agency to manage it.

… Which would then also probably mean that said government would now directly know every game you own.

And then you’d have to think about how that would play with things like game key selling sites…

Yeah. This would be a nightmare to try to actually implement.

Now the government would be directly involved in DRM. Like uh, potentially, verify your actual identity with face scan to log in to your game library of any kinds of games… that kind of involved.

There are many other complexities and problems than that.

To add to what you have said:

Valve is an effective monopoly.

A lot of people seem to think ‘monopoly’ means ‘literally 0 alternatives for the consumer’, but this is not the case in either actual economic jargon/theory nor in basically any legal definition of it I am aware of.

To be a monopoly you basically just need to be the clear dominant actor in some market. Not the only one, just the main one, such that you can make pricing decisions in a way that other actors in the same market can’t, basically.

Its… very rare for a ‘true’ or ‘perfect’ monopoly to ever exist for basically anything other than a public utility/service. It almost never happens.

This is the kind of pedantry that is annoying but unfortunately important, similar to how ‘Impeachment’ by the House on its own is actually pointless beyond a mark of shame unless it is also followed by a ‘conviction’ by the Senate.

You are correct that in US law, a major factor that is considered is whether or not the company did abusive, deceptive, underhanded stuff to achieve its monopopy status.

But UK law appears to be different:

https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=c5b1e681-5fb5-4161-bebf-823034fab751

You could be doing ‘abuse of dominance’ whether or not you achieved that dominance by underhanded means.

So… while I am not a lawyer, I would be genuinely surprised if Valve was found in serious violation of existing US monopoly laws, but I would be less surprised if they were found to be in violation of existing UK monopoly laws.

Kind of pretty important and relevant:

The main reason why this process isn’t “something for nothing” is that it takes twice as much electrical energy to produce energy in the form of gasoline. As Aircela told The Autopian:

Aircela is targeting >50% end to end power efficiency. Since there is about 37kWh of energy in a gallon of gasoline we will require about 75kWh to make it. When we power our machines with standalone, off-grid, photovoltaic panels this will correspond to less than $1.50/gallon in energy cost.

So basically juat imagine a gas powered generator hooked up to this to power the process of pulling gasoline out of the air.

Ok, see how that’s silly?

Right, now, if you do run it off solar power, then sure! That makes more sense.

Hate hyrdocarbon fuels all you want, they are very good at being dense, portable, and exist in the vast majority of pre-existing logistics infrastructure.

But the thing isn’t magic, it takes energy to convert air into basically a form of liquid energy.

And… you’d probably have to refine it or chemically treat it at least somewhat.

I’m not a chemist, but I am guessing this is the case, if you want gasoline that is just equivalent to what your car would expect.

The hipsters balnakanized and fragmented because we were forced to attempt to migrate to find reasonable housing prices and jobs.

Yep, that’s right, blame capitalism.

Wow you have poor reading comprhension.

Just because I didn’t explictly reference the thing that the ironic joke would be referencing doesn’t mean I don’t know the reference.

You just read that what I said, and because I didn’t explictly indicate the reference to the loose vagina meme, well that must mean I am unaware of it.

You’re confusing me being general with me lacking specific knowledge.

Please learn how to read, and leave me alone.

It did not, which is why I listed that as an option.

I am autistic, tons of people do Schrödinger’s douchebag and tons of memes and other parts of culture that were once understood as clearly ironic are now taken at face value genuienly.

How did you conclude that it went over my head, that I didn’t know that reference, from me giving two possible ways of interpreting this?

Wait wait wait.

So, analogously…

What would JIT compiler style code be?

… oh no.

I think it would basically be a co-dependent sycophant with no personality beyond pleasing you.

Make sure to try - catch the vomit in the event it potentially escapes your mouth.

Or I guess you only get blowjobs?

Or… titjobs or whatever?

It is extremely funny though, to think that vaginal sex would constrict your dick to I guess the point of causing something like atrophy and collapse all the tiny capillaries of the … spongy parts of a dick…

… but somehow anal sex would not do this.

The meme is either meant to be so dumb that its ironic, or, whoever made it has never actually stuck their dick in anyone’s butt.

Also I guess we are just also pretending pelvic floor muscles and such … aren’t relevant at all, somehow, to what one can get their dick to do.

Huzzah!

(EDIT: realized you.already described much if this, blargh, im about to pass out and fall asleep)

Unfortunately I have been using Bazzite so long I’m not sure exactly how to explain how to do it on SteamOS, but…

So your Deck, when Steam is still running, is also running the layer that translates your joy and buttons and track pads and what not, as managed via Steam’s controller profile system.

You can go into steam settings and find a button for something like a default desktop config.

You can uh, tinker with that profile and make it so a hot key or combo switches it over to just acting as basically an xbox369 controller.

When you are in that mode, Lutris, emulators run in desktop mode, etc… they should recognize your joy/trigger/button inputs as if they were a 360 controller now.

It… can be a bit confusing, but its not impossible to set up, at least not with the emulators Inhabe futzed about with.

Appeal to hypocrisy and cowardice?

You think I’m arguing this… as rhetorically convincing way of…migrating people… to another … position?

We’re not on reddit. I don’t talk to redditors.

Because I think the vast majority of them are willing participants in a destructive and abusive system.

I’m not doing PR, I’m using a word to accurately the vast majority of such people in the situation you described.

I’m… not going to constantly police my speech to be some kind of maximally appealling and welcoming to everyone.

I say what I think.

If that upsets you, I don’t care, block me, please.

I’m not a politician trying to craft a maximally acceptable political message.

If you want that kind of social environment… go back to the reddit hivemind.

Go look again the OP image that spawned this entire conversation.

You’re gonna tell me that advertising for homocidal fascist goons, as a business model, is not abusive?

That an enshittifying platform that literally sold out so that a couple owners could extract even MORE money out of everyone around them… thats not abusive?

I’m sorry you have a problem with the word coward, but, I am using it correctly, in applying it to your scenario.

Yeah, all your points abouts about why its difficult to leave are valid, its complex when you go into detail, when you take it case by case.

But when you zoom out, and write a memoir or a summary about it… it boils down to, as I already said, either your values of not using an exploitative platform don’t exceed your need for using it, for whatever reason, or, you’re afraid of losing social connections or social standing.

People with strong ties to a reddit community and strong values and courage… could become leaders in trying to orchestrate or encourage an exodus or relocation.

Yeah, rocking the boat to get people’s attention is harder than pretending it isn’t sinking.

Not standing up for things you claim to believe in or care about makes you a hypocrite and/or a coward.

If your fear of group ostracization or abandonment outwreighs your other sense of values… you are either a coward, or, you don’t actually have the values you seem to think you do.

You said it yourself, in your hypothetical, that they want to leave, which implies they comprehend that being there is bad… but they’re afraid, so they don’t.

How is that not cowardice?

It takes bravery to stand against a group, to critique them, and still be involved with them.

Either they don’t really want to, thus they’re hypocrites, or they do but they’re afraid, thus they are cowards.

Perhaps a mix of both, but it has to be at least one.

Have you ever been in a cult?

An absuive relationship?

A toxic social circle?

It takes courage to get out of those things.

So they’re cowards.

What you are describing is cowardice.

Do you have any experience using Arch, SteamOS, Flatpak, or just… linux in general?

Because now also what you have said makes no sense.

I’ve already explained why.

I haven’t personally used it.

https://heroicgameslauncher.com/faq

Is it possible to use Heroic to launch games that have been purchased outside of the Epic Games Store or GOG, such as on a physical disc or through another digital store?

Yes, you can use the ADD GAME feature in Heroic to add games that have been purchased outside of the Epic Games Store or GOG. After installing the game normally, use the ADD GAME option and fill in the necessary information. Heroic will automatically retrieve an image for the game from the web. If the game requires an installer to be run before launching, you can use the “Run Installer First” button on the ADD GAME screen to do so.

Uh… sounds like that would work for purchased games, but not for generally just having a game.

???

Proton is vastly majority funded by Steam, in terms of how much development is done by whom.

So you’re still basically dependent on Steam, if you’re using Proton.

But yeah, its certainly good to still have Lutris and other launchers / wine-proton environment configurator tools… but…

Lutris’ UI is a confusing unintuitive mess compared to Steam’s, for the process of setting up a game to work via Proton.

And that’s saying something, because Steam’s is still a bit annoying.

Yes, Lutris having more tweakable options is nice, but… it also could be made in such a way that it generally just actually works 90% of the time.

Lutris does work, but its unnecessarily confusing with too many steps much of the time.

I guess I’m being a bit too harsh in just straight up questioning why Lutris even exists anymore, and what I am really conplaining about is that it is a bad UX and could benefit from an overhaul, one that still gives you all those tweakable settings, but streamlines and makes the most common procedures that most users are likely to do into a much less annoying process.