Yeah, I understand that frequently arguing with people isn’t ideal, but if you’re not field testing your opinions against someone who’s actively trying to disprove them, then how can you really know they’re right?
There are plenty of things I was sure about until someone argued with me well enough to make me think harder about it and come to a different conclusion. Isolating yourself with only people who agree with you is convenient, but stifling; community is uncomfortable.
What a stupid argument. Some people are obviously trolls or commenting in bad faith. Blocking people like that does not build an echo chamber. If this person had said “block every person who disagrees with you” then yeah, you’re going to end up with an echo chamber.
Personally, I think it’s important to avoid blocking people so that I can see them spreading false information and that they get challenged on their BS. But plenty of people are coming to social media/ forums/ whatever you consider Lemmy to engage with other people who share a similar hobby. Not everyone needs to deal with assholes fighting over (usually American) politics.
That’s kind of half the picture though. Adblocking and piracy are not done in a vacuum. You typically block ads in response to the unethical practice of hostile design and the abuse of human psychology to be conditioned positively to something through exposure rather than just making a good product. Piracy is often in response to unethical business practices as well.
If none of those unethical forces existed, you can be sure there would be a lot less pirates and adblockers. But in our current world piracy and adblocking are often straight up ethical in relative terms.
Adblockers are a pain in the ass for many reasons. Small websites can’t realistically fund themselves with other sources, big players like newspapers end up putting paywalls limit access to quality journalism or selling themselves to billionaires who can run them at a loss in exchange of influence on the reporting. You end up with billionaires controlling all media and no way for small shops to compete with them.
YouTube premium: YouTube ads are fucking annoying, adblocking on TVs is unreliable at best, impossible at worst, I want to support the people who create the content I enjoy and the price for a whole family, for a whole month… is one third of the price of going to the movies once.
There are many more trolls on the Internet than people actually arguing in good faith. Lemmy is no exception, just hasn’t been around long enough to get all of the trolls like reddit has.
Use block liberally. Your bubble will slowly improve, and so will everyone else’s.
I’m not a fan of shrinking my echo chamber
I’ll block people who are just plain choosing to be stupid or are annoying, but I don’t want to block people who just disagree with me
There’s not sufficient echo in my chamber!
Tja.
Machste nix.
Yeah, I understand that frequently arguing with people isn’t ideal, but if you’re not field testing your opinions against someone who’s actively trying to disprove them, then how can you really know they’re right?
There are plenty of things I was sure about until someone argued with me well enough to make me think harder about it and come to a different conclusion. Isolating yourself with only people who agree with you is convenient, but stifling; community is uncomfortable.
I know, but some people over here seem to be afraid of any dissent.
I like to jokingly refer to it as “improving the acoustics”
What a stupid argument. Some people are obviously trolls or commenting in bad faith. Blocking people like that does not build an echo chamber. If this person had said “block every person who disagrees with you” then yeah, you’re going to end up with an echo chamber.
Personally, I think it’s important to avoid blocking people so that I can see them spreading false information and that they get challenged on their BS. But plenty of people are coming to social media/ forums/ whatever you consider Lemmy to engage with other people who share a similar hobby. Not everyone needs to deal with assholes fighting over (usually American) politics.
I have been labeled a troll many a time, for:
Arguing against adblocker and for YouTube premium is the most center of the bell curve IQ meme take I’ve ever heard.
I use adblockers and pirate stuff, but I don’t try to fool myself into thinking that it’s an ethically sound thing to do.
That’s kind of half the picture though. Adblocking and piracy are not done in a vacuum. You typically block ads in response to the unethical practice of hostile design and the abuse of human psychology to be conditioned positively to something through exposure rather than just making a good product. Piracy is often in response to unethical business practices as well.
If none of those unethical forces existed, you can be sure there would be a lot less pirates and adblockers. But in our current world piracy and adblocking are often straight up ethical in relative terms.
Adblockers are a pain in the ass for many reasons. Small websites can’t realistically fund themselves with other sources, big players like newspapers end up putting paywalls limit access to quality journalism or selling themselves to billionaires who can run them at a loss in exchange of influence on the reporting. You end up with billionaires controlling all media and no way for small shops to compete with them.
YouTube premium: YouTube ads are fucking annoying, adblocking on TVs is unreliable at best, impossible at worst, I want to support the people who create the content I enjoy and the price for a whole family, for a whole month… is one third of the price of going to the movies once.
I’ll echo in your momma’s chambers
But that’s just because my momma so fat that… wait…
There are many more trolls on the Internet than people actually arguing in good faith. Lemmy is no exception, just hasn’t been around long enough to get all of the trolls like reddit has.