• Mark with a Z@suppo.fi
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    19 hours ago

    Haven’t read unobomber’s manifesto and probably never will because fuck anyone who seeks attention this way.

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        Given the 2:1 ratio on that comment it seems like it actually is a contentious opinion. Maybe the backlash is all due to it being interpreted as virtue signaling, but… there’s so many comments in here unironically praising Ted for his ideas and refraining from commenting on his later actions (or actively justifying them as ex: a way to be taken seriously).

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            I’m not sure it’s unwarranted to explicitly condemn the unabomber here, though. People are unironically praising him in these comments - if condemnation was as obvious as you implied you would have much stronger grounds on which to call me sanctimonious, but right now there’s plenty of people arguing the effectiveness of what he did in distributing his message and nobody that’s yet pointed out that he was a literal terrorist.

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      I don’t approve of his methods, either.

      Then again, I don’t approve of the Church’s methods, but there’s some pretty good stuff buried in the Christian bible, too.

      Reading something doesn’t mean you need to agree with the author. It’s not like people are financially supporting the Unibomber, or excusing his actions, when they read his manifesto. They’re just studying history.

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        The comment was half just an excuse to mispell the name after OP set it up like that.

        But from what I’ve heard, I’m not missing much of value, so I’d only be reading ramblings of a madman.

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          “We give up a piece of ourselves whenever we adjust to conform to society’s standards. That, and we’re too plugged in. We’re letting technology take over our lives, willingly.”

          Absolute insanity. Obviously a madman.

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              It’s been 30 years and people are still talking about it. He’d probably consider that a win.


              He predicted that technological advances would lead to extensive and ultimately oppressive forms of human control, including genetic engineering, and that human beings would be adjusted to meet the needs of social systems rather than vice versa.

              Kaczynski stated that technological progress can be stopped, in contrast to the viewpoint of people who he said understand technology’s negative effects yet passively accept technology as inevitable. He called for a revolution to force the collapse of the worldwide technological system, and held a life close to nature, in particular primitivist lifestyles, as an ultimate ideal.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kaczynski


              He hated leftist views, he hated fascism. He seemed to advocate a technological level somewhere between Native American and Amish. Call him an isolationist libertarian, I suppose. His solution to the problem is like something out of Fight Club - a one man “Project Mayhem.”

              tl;dr: His methodology was pointlessly cruel and ineffective. But his assessment of the human condition wasn’t too far off the mark.

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              Just gonna rip from Wikipedia

              With its initial publication in 1995, the manifesto was received as intellectually deep and sane. Writers described the manifesto’s sentiment as familiar. To Kirkpatrick Sale, the Unabomber was “a rational man” with reasonable beliefs about technology. He recommended the manifesto’s opening sentence for the forefront of American politics. Cynthia Ozick likened the work to an American Raskolnikov (of Dostoevsky’s Crime and Punishment), as a “philosophical criminal of exceptional intelligence and humanitarian purpose … driven to commit murder out of an uncompromising idealism”.