[a city devasted by war, with smoke coming from ruined building, in which dead corpses are lying in pools of blood, is below the following text]
WORKING CLASS PEOPLE KILLING EACH OTHER IN AN ENDLESS WAR WHILE THE POOR GET POORER AND THE RICH GET RICHER
[a smug character points at the devastated city, while saying]
If you do not blindly and fully support this, then you are an evil person who wants others to die
Then we agree that there is no possible military intervention.
Negotiations are not friendly talks hosted by Trump, they’re attempts at ball twisting hosted by parties that actually want peace. So far all I’ve seen has been way too friendly, obviously Putin will just say “ok give me everything” and walk out if he has nothing to lose.
I don’t think more dead proles is a healthy endgame.
Putin has refused to strike deals even with European leaders; he hasn’t just been taking Trump for a ride. If we stopped supplying weapons to the Ukrainians, they would be conquered in no time, but that would be an occupation, not peace.
To negotiate, you must first prevent Russia from doing whatever it wants in Ukraine; otherwise, the only valid agreement will be Ukraine’s annexation by Russia.
My country is the third biggest purchaser of Russian fossil fuels, spending more on it than on helping Ukraine, while Macron is posturing as the one true ally of Ukraine.
I’m not so sure governments are interested in preventing Russia from doing whatever it wants. Capital makes the decisions.
We already surrendered to Putin when we let the war happen in the first place and didn’t cut off Russia financially afterwards. It’s been four years of pretending we haven’t, how many more to go? How many millions more casualties are acceptable until we actually do something one way or the other? If waiting for Russia to Vietnam itself is the plan, put an “acceptable” number of years and of casualties on it.
In what sense are we letting Putin do whatever he wants? It was supposed to be a three-day war, but they’ve been stuck in Donbas for four years. I don’t know how much longer this will go on, but as long as there are Ukrainians resisting the invasion of a fascist state, I think it’s right to support their fight
I mean, the EU is still announcing new sanction packages (they’re on their 17th package so far), which makes it seem like a lot is being done, but on the other hand why have all these sanctions not been implemented from the start? I don’t hear of the EU holding back weapons anymore, but it took literal years to get to this stage. And let’s not get into how reliant Europe still is on Russia gas after four years despite renewable energy being right there, or how the EU keeps supporting (or at least condoning) US imperialism that directly compromises Ukrainian defense, as is the case in Iran, or how Hungary is allowed to hold up billions in aid to Ukraine. After four years of this the EU is still pulling punches, and there’s very little indication it ever intends to stop doing so. The EU’s idea of supporting Ukraine is supporting Ukraine to the extent that it doesn’t compromise the bourgeois status quo (edit: recent example). Either go all in and stop the Russian invasion or force a peaceful settlement/capitulation without throwing Ukrainian and Russian lives into the blender.
It should’ve been a three-day war in Ukraine’s favor, is my point. Spending a decade grinding Russia and Ukraine to dust against each other is the worst of both worlds.