• Rothe@piefed.social
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    27 days ago

    It does not expose anything of the sort. You are just applying strawmen in your purity test.

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      27 days ago

      no, saying “i miss obama” is the same as those republicans who whinge that they voted for trump three times but NOW trump is bad because it effects them.

      they remember Obama fondly because that time was good FOR THEM. and not because obama was a good president. it’s gross because it’s selfish and akin to saying “i wish it was like the 20’s - 50’s, times were better then…” you automatically know the type of person who said that and why

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        26 days ago

        I remember Obama fondly because Obama’s actions were less bad. People who say “I wish it was the 20s-50s” are wishing for a time when things were worse on matters that they find less-compelling.

        Would you like to outline any of Obama’s policies which were worse than the current shitshow in the fascist merry-go-round?

        “Things were bad in the past, therefore, things can never get worse” is fucking childish and asinine and something that should’ve been educated out of folk in the 1st-2nd grade.

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          26 days ago

          i remember the cop who beats people fondly because cops now a days just shoot people.

          “People who say ‘I wish it was the 20’s-50’s ‘ are wishing for a time when things were worse on matters that they find less-compelling”

          that was my exact point. it speaks to the character of a person who determines that the bad things that happen are not their problem, and shows a lack of empathy, and signals where its ok to stop trying to push things to being better. that is why its gross.

          it was never about who was worse

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            26 days ago

            i remember the cop who beats people fondly because cops now a days just shoot people.

            Unironically, yes; for the same reason I would be nostalgic for the Weimar Republic whilst living under the fucking Nazi regime.

            That you find those two to be morally equivalent is a ‘you’ problem.

            that was my exact point. it speaks to the character of a person who determines that the bad things that happen are not their problem, and shows a lack of empathy, and signals where its ok to stop trying to push things to being better. that is why its gross.

            “Wow, I miss the days when we were fighting a less-fucked system.”

            “Oh, so you’d want to stop fighting if only you could have that system back?”

            ???

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              26 days ago

              i would have both cops … removed instead of pointing for the days where it was only the minorities who were getting shot. the point is to acknowledge that both cops were pices of fucking shit and both needed to be stopped

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                26 days ago

                i would have both cops … removed instead of pointing for the days where it was only the minorities who were getting shot. the point is to acknowledge that both cops were pices of fucking shit and both needed to be stopped

                Yes, but shit man, the argument of nostalgia isn’t “Back in the days of Obama, life was a utopia that did not need to be improved upon or fought! 😊”, it’s “God, remember when I still had two bad legs and still had both arms, but now I’m a quadruple amputee? This sucks, I fucking miss the less-bad days.”

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                  26 days ago

                  cool, it’s self focused, and member berries a white washed version of events, just don’t be surprised when others don’t have that same fuzzy feeling over that period of time

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                    26 days ago

                    cool, it’s self focused, and member berries a white washed version of events, just don’t be surprised when others don’t have that same fuzzy feeling over that period of time

                    Obama’s administration is still fondly remembered by a supermajority of African-Americans. Maybe don’t try to whitewash the lived experiences of oppressed demographics in favor of an abstract online political circlejerk.

                    What ‘fuzzy feeling’ over a period of time are we expecting, by the way? People judge their circumstances relative to the circumstances they’ve experienced; who among us has been alive for a better president than Obama? Perhaps some sexagenarians, if they prefer forgiving the brutal Vietnam War in light of LBJ’s domestic accomplishments. You can say the limbo bar is in hell, and you wouldn’t be wrong, but I re-emphasize the quadruple amputee comparison - people are not wrong to fondly remember when things were LESS fucked.

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            26 days ago

            You’re arguing with one of the most pathetically neoliberal goons on this site.

            They have no solidarity with the oppressed and just want to stroke their ego with their self-centered, centrist bullshit.

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              26 days ago

              It is quite funny how political commissars reveal their own projections so easily.

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        26 days ago

        I wouldn’t trust you at all making any judgements about history or anything else, because you are so scared about not passing your own purity test, that you think making any kind of concession about a grading scale of the difference of various historical characters makes your peers denounce your own political purity.

        Remember noone said anything about supporting anybody, but they definitely said something about Obama is not the same as Trump.