My entire comment is 100% truth, 0% lies. None of the groups you mentioned have committed genocide, I even googled it and I couldn’t even find anyone but you who even claimed it. Are you just making shit up? I can cite every single one of my claims, can you cite any of yours?
The PMF was a group formed to fight ISIS, for fuck sake. Hezbollah and the Houthis fight Israel, which is conducting a genocide. One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter. I won’t defend all their actions, but at least someone is standing up to Amerisrael.
Over 150,000 innocent people were killed by the explosion alone, without even considering the impact of radiation exposure. They were densely populated urban cities chosen BECAUSE they were densely populated. Military and industrial targets which would have minimized harm to civillians and maximized damage to military operations were suggested but rejected because the goal of the nukes wasn’t to damage the military, it was to demonstrate the destructiveness of the nuclear bombs to the USSR. They were showing off. They did a terrorist attack a hundred times worse than 9/11 just to show off their new bomb.
By your logic, America really did deserve 9/11 - New York City is a military target, after all.
Houthis deliberately targeted the Hajoor people massacredthem and displaced them, they pushed out or cleansed the Jewish population in Yemen, the PMF are ETHNICALLY CLEANSING the Sunni. As did Hezbollah when they fought for the Assad regime. You clearly didn’t look very hard when you googled
Remember how this conversation began - by someone claiming that Iran is the “worst of the worst”, and my response saying that the US and Israel are far worse than Iran - not that Iran is completely innocent. You are trying to shift the conversation away from the atrocities committed by Israel and the United States to far smaller regional and local conflicts which resulted in war crimes and civillian displacements. A well-established genocide and campaign of ethnic cleansing spanning decades is being perpetrated by Israel (with US support) which has been recognized by Holocaust scholars and the UN, against the Palestinian people, where at least tens of thousands of civilians and likely hundreds of thousands been killed as part of a well-established campaign of ethnic cleansing. Entire cities leveled by bombing, and you’re trying to “well, actually” it. Disgraceful.
With all of that said, I have addressed each of your points individually:
Houthis deliberately targeted the Hajoor people massacredthem and displaced them
In early 2019, fighting escalated in the Hajoor tribal area, where some groups including Hajoor fighters resisted Houthi control. There is no widely accepted, verified finding of a single deliberate “massacre” of the Hajoor people as a group in the sense of a clearly documented, large-scale intentional mass killing event. Civilians were harmed, and displaced - as always happens in war - but labeling it as a clear, intentional “massacre” is not strongly backed by established evidence. There is no evidence for genocide or ethnic cleansing. This is a case of civillians being tragically impacted by war. When I think of massacres, I think of the Mỹ Lai Massacre, where US forces massacred hundreds of innocent people and engaged in brutal gang rape, including raping children. Only one person was ever punished for this, and he only served two years of house arrest before his sentence was commuted by the US President.
[Houthis] pushed out or cleansed the Jewish population in Yemen
The decline of Yemen’s Jewish population began long before the Houthis. The civil war in Yemen accelerated the final exodus, of course, as war tends to do. The remaining Jewish population largely left during the Houthi era, and Houthi actions contributed to that outcome, there’s no doubt about that, but there is no widely accepted finding that the Houthis carried out anything approaching ethnic cleansing. The vast majority of Yemenite Jews emigrated to Israel in Operation Magic Carpet between June 1949 and September 1950. Most Yemenite Jews now live in Israel, likely participating in illegal occupations of Palestinian land. Ironically, Israel probably committed crimes more akin to ethnic cleansing of the Yemenite Jews than the Houthis did. During Operation Magic Carpet, Yeminite Jews were often separated from their children. There was a suspicion that the state kidnapped healthy Yemeni children, for adoption, and then informed the parents they had died. As a result, some decades later, the Yemenite Children Affair exploded, in which it was rumoured that something of the order of 1,000 children had gone missing. In February 2019, the New York Times published an article in which some of the missing children were found by DNA test by their living relatives. They were given for adoption to Ashkenazi Jewish families - a clear attempt of erasing the cultural identity of Yemenite Jews, similarly to how Russia did the same with Ukrainian children.
the PMF are ETHNICALLY CLEANSING the Sunni
Well, to begin with, it wouldn’t be an ethnic cleansing, but rather a religious/sectarian one - Sunni is a sect of Islam, not an ethnicity. Putting that aside, of course, the Shiites and the Sunnis have both decades of “bad blood”, violence, war, terrorism and terrible war crimes against the other. A lot of that was a direct consequence of the US invasion of Iraq in 2003. US-imposed policies during the occupation contributed to tensions between Sunni and Shia communities. Even so, again, this is a matter of civilians being terribly impacted by the horrors of war. Again, the PMF was founded to fight ISIS, and ISIS is a Sunni Islamist extremist organization. Ethnic cleansing implies a systematic, coordinated effort to permanently remove a specific ethnic or sectarian group from territory. There is no widely accepted finding that the PMF as a whole are carrying out a nationwide, centrally directed campaign to expel all Sunnis. It was a campaign to expel the Sunni extremist terror group ISIS. Terrible war crimes no doubt have been committed by the PMF against Sunni civilians living in areas where the war against ISIS was fought and I will not defend that at all, but it does not amount to ethnic cleansing.
ISIS was born out of the failed state in Iraq as a consequence of the United States invasion of Iraq in 2003.
Hezbollah [committed ethnically cleansing in Syria] when they fought for the Assad regime
As above, it would be sectarian war crimes, not ethnic cleansing. Again, that’s not really important, war crimes are war crimes of course and should always be considered completely unacceptable. Hezbollah did indeed participate in military campaigns that caused large-scale displacement of Sunni civilians, but these were military campaigns directed by the Syrian under Assad, one of the most brutal, ruthless dictators in the modern era. Hezbollah operations were typically carried out jointly with Syrian government forces, making attribution of war crimes complex, but there is no clear, universally established finding that Hezbollah independently carried out a systematic campaign of ethnic cleansing against Sunnis as a whole. If Hezbollah were truly the genocidal force you believe them to be, why haven’t they displaced Sunni people from Lebanon, where they have far more power?
Even Christians living in Lebanon have spoken favorably about Hezbollah, because Hezbollah protects the Lebanese people - regardless of faith or ethnicity - against the terrible crimes of Israel:
“How can we as Christians in this area not be with Hezbollah? They protect our churches,” Rifaat Nasrallah, a 60-year-old quarryman from the village, told the Telegraph.
Israel is now conducting an ethnic cleansing campaign of Southern Lebanon and Hezbollah are bravely fighting those disgusting Zionist fascists and putting them down like the filthy monsters they are. Thank Allah for Hezbollah.
My entire comment is 100% truth, 0% lies. None of the groups you mentioned have committed genocide, I even googled it and I couldn’t even find anyone but you who even claimed it. Are you just making shit up? I can cite every single one of my claims, can you cite any of yours?
The PMF was a group formed to fight ISIS, for fuck sake. Hezbollah and the Houthis fight Israel, which is conducting a genocide. One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter. I won’t defend all their actions, but at least someone is standing up to Amerisrael.
Further, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were legitimate targets having military hq facilities and industry.
Over 150,000 innocent people were killed by the explosion alone, without even considering the impact of radiation exposure. They were densely populated urban cities chosen BECAUSE they were densely populated. Military and industrial targets which would have minimized harm to civillians and maximized damage to military operations were suggested but rejected because the goal of the nukes wasn’t to damage the military, it was to demonstrate the destructiveness of the nuclear bombs to the USSR. They were showing off. They did a terrorist attack a hundred times worse than 9/11 just to show off their new bomb.
By your logic, America really did deserve 9/11 - New York City is a military target, after all.
Houthis deliberately targeted the Hajoor people massacredthem and displaced them, they pushed out or cleansed the Jewish population in Yemen, the PMF are ETHNICALLY CLEANSING the Sunni. As did Hezbollah when they fought for the Assad regime. You clearly didn’t look very hard when you googled
Remember how this conversation began - by someone claiming that Iran is the “worst of the worst”, and my response saying that the US and Israel are far worse than Iran - not that Iran is completely innocent. You are trying to shift the conversation away from the atrocities committed by Israel and the United States to far smaller regional and local conflicts which resulted in war crimes and civillian displacements. A well-established genocide and campaign of ethnic cleansing spanning decades is being perpetrated by Israel (with US support) which has been recognized by Holocaust scholars and the UN, against the Palestinian people, where at least tens of thousands of civilians and likely hundreds of thousands been killed as part of a well-established campaign of ethnic cleansing. Entire cities leveled by bombing, and you’re trying to “well, actually” it. Disgraceful.
With all of that said, I have addressed each of your points individually:
In early 2019, fighting escalated in the Hajoor tribal area, where some groups including Hajoor fighters resisted Houthi control. There is no widely accepted, verified finding of a single deliberate “massacre” of the Hajoor people as a group in the sense of a clearly documented, large-scale intentional mass killing event. Civilians were harmed, and displaced - as always happens in war - but labeling it as a clear, intentional “massacre” is not strongly backed by established evidence. There is no evidence for genocide or ethnic cleansing. This is a case of civillians being tragically impacted by war. When I think of massacres, I think of the Mỹ Lai Massacre, where US forces massacred hundreds of innocent people and engaged in brutal gang rape, including raping children. Only one person was ever punished for this, and he only served two years of house arrest before his sentence was commuted by the US President.
The decline of Yemen’s Jewish population began long before the Houthis. The civil war in Yemen accelerated the final exodus, of course, as war tends to do. The remaining Jewish population largely left during the Houthi era, and Houthi actions contributed to that outcome, there’s no doubt about that, but there is no widely accepted finding that the Houthis carried out anything approaching ethnic cleansing. The vast majority of Yemenite Jews emigrated to Israel in Operation Magic Carpet between June 1949 and September 1950. Most Yemenite Jews now live in Israel, likely participating in illegal occupations of Palestinian land. Ironically, Israel probably committed crimes more akin to ethnic cleansing of the Yemenite Jews than the Houthis did. During Operation Magic Carpet, Yeminite Jews were often separated from their children. There was a suspicion that the state kidnapped healthy Yemeni children, for adoption, and then informed the parents they had died. As a result, some decades later, the Yemenite Children Affair exploded, in which it was rumoured that something of the order of 1,000 children had gone missing. In February 2019, the New York Times published an article in which some of the missing children were found by DNA test by their living relatives. They were given for adoption to Ashkenazi Jewish families - a clear attempt of erasing the cultural identity of Yemenite Jews, similarly to how Russia did the same with Ukrainian children.
Well, to begin with, it wouldn’t be an ethnic cleansing, but rather a religious/sectarian one - Sunni is a sect of Islam, not an ethnicity. Putting that aside, of course, the Shiites and the Sunnis have both decades of “bad blood”, violence, war, terrorism and terrible war crimes against the other. A lot of that was a direct consequence of the US invasion of Iraq in 2003. US-imposed policies during the occupation contributed to tensions between Sunni and Shia communities. Even so, again, this is a matter of civilians being terribly impacted by the horrors of war. Again, the PMF was founded to fight ISIS, and ISIS is a Sunni Islamist extremist organization. Ethnic cleansing implies a systematic, coordinated effort to permanently remove a specific ethnic or sectarian group from territory. There is no widely accepted finding that the PMF as a whole are carrying out a nationwide, centrally directed campaign to expel all Sunnis. It was a campaign to expel the Sunni extremist terror group ISIS. Terrible war crimes no doubt have been committed by the PMF against Sunni civilians living in areas where the war against ISIS was fought and I will not defend that at all, but it does not amount to ethnic cleansing.
ISIS was born out of the failed state in Iraq as a consequence of the United States invasion of Iraq in 2003.
As above, it would be sectarian war crimes, not ethnic cleansing. Again, that’s not really important, war crimes are war crimes of course and should always be considered completely unacceptable. Hezbollah did indeed participate in military campaigns that caused large-scale displacement of Sunni civilians, but these were military campaigns directed by the Syrian under Assad, one of the most brutal, ruthless dictators in the modern era. Hezbollah operations were typically carried out jointly with Syrian government forces, making attribution of war crimes complex, but there is no clear, universally established finding that Hezbollah independently carried out a systematic campaign of ethnic cleansing against Sunnis as a whole. If Hezbollah were truly the genocidal force you believe them to be, why haven’t they displaced Sunni people from Lebanon, where they have far more power?
Even Christians living in Lebanon have spoken favorably about Hezbollah, because Hezbollah protects the Lebanese people - regardless of faith or ethnicity - against the terrible crimes of Israel:
Israel is now conducting an ethnic cleansing campaign of Southern Lebanon and Hezbollah are bravely fighting those disgusting Zionist fascists and putting them down like the filthy monsters they are. Thank Allah for Hezbollah.