• dalekcaan@feddit.nl
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      2 hours ago

      Nobody is here to say Kamala is good. They’re saying if you think she’s the same as Trump, you either haven’t been paying attention or you’re one of the “both sides” criers that got us into this shit in the first place. No, Kamala is far from my first pick, but at this point a drunken orangutan would be a marked improvement.

      • lumpenproletariat@quokk.auOPM
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        58 minutes ago

        Saying both sides is not what got you into this, having no side reject what was happening is.

        The only people who got you into this are the party who didn’t listen.

    • PugJesus@piefed.social
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      Both the Soviets and the Canadians said that Nazi Germany was their main enemy during WW2, but that doesn’t mean the Soviets and Canadians were equivalent to each other.

      If you, a campist, and a theocrat walked into a bar, and all said “Death to America”, that would not mean the three of you are suddenly in agreement of what your opposition means.

      Furthermore, even being united in opposition of the same type is still not opposition of the same intensity - both you and a Republican (at least pre-2016) would probably agree that, say, North Korea’s government is tyrannical and needs to be put down. The difference is that the Republican’s opposition to the immediate existence of North Korea’s government would probably be intense enough to sanction unprovoked interstate warfare, whereas your opposition would probably not sanction interstate warfare, instead preferring internal revolution.

      Put another way, a bunch of US presidents have hated Cuba for immensely petty reasons. But only a few have hated it enough to actually attempt to invade.

      “No one is good here”? Yeah, fucking fair. US politics are mega-fucked, and that’s not even getting into the question of how many Americans actually agree with this shite (too many). “They are the same level of horrific”? Not a fucking chance, and no analysis of the situation bears that out that isn’t reliant on alternate history level “But you couldn’t KNOW it wouldn’t happen” about how the discovery of rubber duckies in 100 AD would have made Christianity LGBT-friendly.