I was with this till I saw it coming from someone who I constantly see screaming down at anyone that refused to support Harris and/or voted third party. How about practicing what ya preach there buddy?
So you agree with the “you’re with me or you’re against me” and “anyone who disagrees with me even a little bit is the enemy and deserves a bullet!” attitudes in this comic?
I’m fine with people having their own way of achieving a better world. My problem comes when someone starts fighting with somebody because they didn’t do it the “right” way. If you support the DNC then cool. If you view them as no different than the Conservatives, awesome. If you think people who view one of these two is a problem that needs to change and you’re gonna do that by attacking them, then fuck you.
While I’m certainly imperfect in this regard, regarding a low-cost low-risk act of harm reduction against fascism with potentially very serious effects as mandatory if it’s not a major burden on your life is not an attack on your ideology, no more than regarding calling the ambulance for a dying man as mandatory is an attack on you, regardless of whether you think the man should be dying in the first place or not.
That’s your belief and that’s fine, but attacking people who believe the actual harm reduction is not supporting either major party since they’re seen as the same level of harmful and votes for third party candidates along with progressive third party options at local elections (something I just did yesterday since my town just had our local elections and I only voted for those that never showcased support for either party even on their personal social media accounts) is just being the guy on the right.
That’s your belief and that’s fine, but attacking people who believe the actual harm reduction is not supporting either major party since they’re seen as the same level of harmful and votes for third party candidates along with progressive third party options at local elections (something I just did yesterday since my town just had our local elections and I only voted for those that never showcased support for either party even on their personal social media accounts) is just being the guy on the right.
That presumes that the requirement to not be the guy on the right is to endorse all actions, even ones which directly undermine one’s own cause or directly assist fascism, as equally valid. That’s not what the meme is saying. This isn’t about asspatting people for enabling Nazis. I said that already.
People’s views of what enables fascists are different. If you view the DNC as another fascist party, then voting for them is a fascist choice. A lesser fascist is still a fascist after all, whether you view them as lesser or equal is up to you.
People’s views of what enables fascists are different. If you view the DNC as another fascist party, then voting for them is a fascist choice. A lesser fascist is still a fascist after all, whether you view them as lesser or equal is up to you.
So you don’t actually understand what ‘harm reduction’ means despite using the term. Got it.
Harm reduction to me is no harm being caused (unless it’s to a member of the bourgeoisie class cause it’s always open season on them) aka reducing harm to 0. Some view it as stopping 1% of harm which works for them. Both want the same end goal, but disagree on how to go about it and get passionately argumentative and sometimes hostile about it.
So you don’t actually understand what ‘harm reduction’ means despite using the term. Got it.
In any case, this is an argument over the validity a method, which is not what the meme is about. The meme isn’t saying “Don’t argue with other leftists when your positions clash!”, it’s saying "Remember that there is broad room for cooperation and allyship, and that a different kind of leftist is not automatically your enemy just because they have different end-goals."
But that’s what I’m saying. Working together towards the same goal of defeating capitalists is what matters. Yelling at each other over how to achieve it cause one believes it undermines the other is bad. Like the political party I do volunteer work with works with a variety of leftists to the point of of us refers to the party as “marxist-non-denominational”. They’ve acknowledged having problems with some in the past like anarchists, but never shut them out if they want to help. The end goal is all that matters.
I was with this till I saw it coming from someone who I constantly see screaming down at anyone that refused to support Harris and/or voted third party. How about practicing what ya preach there buddy?
So you agree with the “you’re with me or you’re against me” and “anyone who disagrees with me even a little bit is the enemy and deserves a bullet!” attitudes in this comic?
You’re so close, man!
I’m fine with people having their own way of achieving a better world. My problem comes when someone starts fighting with somebody because they didn’t do it the “right” way. If you support the DNC then cool. If you view them as no different than the Conservatives, awesome. If you think people who view one of these two is a problem that needs to change and you’re gonna do that by attacking them, then fuck you.
While I’m certainly imperfect in this regard, regarding a low-cost low-risk act of harm reduction against fascism with potentially very serious effects as mandatory if it’s not a major burden on your life is not an attack on your ideology, no more than regarding calling the ambulance for a dying man as mandatory is an attack on you, regardless of whether you think the man should be dying in the first place or not.
That’s your belief and that’s fine, but attacking people who believe the actual harm reduction is not supporting either major party since they’re seen as the same level of harmful and votes for third party candidates along with progressive third party options at local elections (something I just did yesterday since my town just had our local elections and I only voted for those that never showcased support for either party even on their personal social media accounts) is just being the guy on the right.
That presumes that the requirement to not be the guy on the right is to endorse all actions, even ones which directly undermine one’s own cause or directly assist fascism, as equally valid. That’s not what the meme is saying. This isn’t about asspatting people for enabling Nazis. I said that already.
People’s views of what enables fascists are different. If you view the DNC as another fascist party, then voting for them is a fascist choice. A lesser fascist is still a fascist after all, whether you view them as lesser or equal is up to you.
So you don’t actually understand what ‘harm reduction’ means despite using the term. Got it.
Harm reduction to me is no harm being caused (unless it’s to a member of the bourgeoisie class cause it’s always open season on them) aka reducing harm to 0. Some view it as stopping 1% of harm which works for them. Both want the same end goal, but disagree on how to go about it and get passionately argumentative and sometimes hostile about it.
In any case, this is an argument over the validity a method, which is not what the meme is about. The meme isn’t saying “Don’t argue with other leftists when your positions clash!”, it’s saying "Remember that there is broad room for cooperation and allyship, and that a different kind of leftist is not automatically your enemy just because they have different end-goals."
But that’s what I’m saying. Working together towards the same goal of defeating capitalists is what matters. Yelling at each other over how to achieve it cause one believes it undermines the other is bad. Like the political party I do volunteer work with works with a variety of leftists to the point of of us refers to the party as “marxist-non-denominational”. They’ve acknowledged having problems with some in the past like anarchists, but never shut them out if they want to help. The end goal is all that matters.