I don’t know why you keep acting like I’m against voting when that’s all I’ve been supporting this whole thread. I do take the time out of my day to vote, even helping my elderly father who struggles walking get to the polls. I constantly advocate for more people to vote and convince my friends and coworkers to do the same. It’s just that the bubble I fill in (we only have paper tickets here no electric machines I hear other places got) doesn’t have a D or R next to it. The people I talk to are tired of the inaction Dems have shown for decades with many only voting for Conservatives cause they get tricked. I’ve gotten many who voted Trump in 2016 and 2020 to vote for actual progressives in 2024. We always talk about needing to build an actual progressive party and, as anyone will tell you, that starts by actually supporting them at every chance and takes a lot of time to achieve. Over 40k people supported a movement away from the major parties and no Harris would not have won the state had they all voted for her instead (she’d still be over 500k votes short and that’s with 70% of registered voters voting which is pretty close to the 75% figure I see many wish would vote). She’d need basically half of the remaining people to vote for her and I just don’t see a world in that happening after spending time with non-voters.
I don’t know why you keep acting like I’m against voting when that’s all I’ve been supporting this whole thread.
Against voting for harm reduction. IE, anything that might actually make a difference in the lives of millions.
We always talk about needing to build an actual progressive party and, as anyone will tell you, that starts by actually supporting them at every chance and takes a lot of time to achieve.
Yeah, and voting for a third party presidential candidate when the two major parties have been consistently polling at near 50% for the month before the election? Maybe not so fucking helpful.
I mean, very helpful to those who want to see more genocide and oppression of minorities, I guess. But that’s usually not a goal of leftists.
But hey, who cares about the thousands of dead Iranians? Not your problem, right? You have your moral purity to uphold.
I’m not going to pretend that’s a course of (in)action worthy of anything but utter disgust, same as someone who says that the way to win WW2 is to help the Nazis genocide the untermensch. I’m sure as shit not going to asspat you for it. We may be able to work together as-needed in other areas, but I’m never going to pretend that that’s anything but abhorrent.
I don’t know why you keep acting like I’m against voting when that’s all I’ve been supporting this whole thread. I do take the time out of my day to vote, even helping my elderly father who struggles walking get to the polls. I constantly advocate for more people to vote and convince my friends and coworkers to do the same. It’s just that the bubble I fill in (we only have paper tickets here no electric machines I hear other places got) doesn’t have a D or R next to it. The people I talk to are tired of the inaction Dems have shown for decades with many only voting for Conservatives cause they get tricked. I’ve gotten many who voted Trump in 2016 and 2020 to vote for actual progressives in 2024. We always talk about needing to build an actual progressive party and, as anyone will tell you, that starts by actually supporting them at every chance and takes a lot of time to achieve. Over 40k people supported a movement away from the major parties and no Harris would not have won the state had they all voted for her instead (she’d still be over 500k votes short and that’s with 70% of registered voters voting which is pretty close to the 75% figure I see many wish would vote). She’d need basically half of the remaining people to vote for her and I just don’t see a world in that happening after spending time with non-voters.
Against voting for harm reduction. IE, anything that might actually make a difference in the lives of millions.
Yeah, and voting for a third party presidential candidate when the two major parties have been consistently polling at near 50% for the month before the election? Maybe not so fucking helpful.
I mean, very helpful to those who want to see more genocide and oppression of minorities, I guess. But that’s usually not a goal of leftists.
But hey, who cares about the thousands of dead Iranians? Not your problem, right? You have your moral purity to uphold.