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Yeah. You are right about Trump. American presidents used to at least make up lies about why they were invading middle eastern countries. Trump is honest because he doesnt care what anyone thinks.
It did feel better to live in a world where American presidents acted like they were the good guys.
If America, Russia, and China is going to be evil, then Europe is also going evil for sure.
Like, it was not all a lie. E.g. the 1991 Gulf War was perfectly morally defensible, while at the same time being in the US economic interest. But there is no inherent problem with defending your economic interest. And the US deserves unqualified praise for the 1999 Serbia intervention to prevent a genocide in Kosovo.
What the US is doing in Venezuela is (at least Trump thinks so) in the US economic interest. But completely amoral at the same time.
If America, Russia, and China is going to be evil, then Europe is also going evil for sure.
I don’t see why Europe would necessarily turn evil.
Because it also has a dark elite, with people wanting power. Its not going to stand alone and fight evil on all fronts. Even if they tried, they would lose.
Yeah sure. But there is some support from USA at this moment, right? They supplied a lot of the weapons to Ukraine. I just meant without that, it may be a different story.
But there is some support from USA at this moment, right?
Limited. There are 1) some sanctions on Russia 2) intelligence support (which Trump has withheld intermittently) and 3) allowing European countries to pay for US weapons to be sent to Ukraine. 4) Maybe I forgot something.
If the US completely stopped supporting Ukraine tomorrow it would be suboptimal, but wouldn’t really change the situation fundamentally. If the EU stopped tomorrow, Ukraine would be completely fucked, and Russia would win within 6 months.
Yeah. You are right about Trump. American presidents used to at least make up lies about why they were invading middle eastern countries. Trump is honest because he doesnt care what anyone thinks.
It did feel better to live in a world where American presidents acted like they were the good guys.
If America, Russia, and China is going to be evil, then Europe is also going evil for sure.
Like, it was not all a lie. E.g. the 1991 Gulf War was perfectly morally defensible, while at the same time being in the US economic interest. But there is no inherent problem with defending your economic interest. And the US deserves unqualified praise for the 1999 Serbia intervention to prevent a genocide in Kosovo.
What the US is doing in Venezuela is (at least Trump thinks so) in the US economic interest. But completely amoral at the same time.
I don’t see why Europe would necessarily turn evil.
Because it also has a dark elite, with people wanting power. Its not going to stand alone and fight evil on all fronts. Even if they tried, they would lose.
Europe seems perfectly happy to fight Putin alone, right now. Europe might lose, but Europe still tries to do what is right there.
Yeah sure. But there is some support from USA at this moment, right? They supplied a lot of the weapons to Ukraine. I just meant without that, it may be a different story.
Limited. There are 1) some sanctions on Russia 2) intelligence support (which Trump has withheld intermittently) and 3) allowing European countries to pay for US weapons to be sent to Ukraine. 4) Maybe I forgot something.
If the US completely stopped supporting Ukraine tomorrow it would be suboptimal, but wouldn’t really change the situation fundamentally. If the EU stopped tomorrow, Ukraine would be completely fucked, and Russia would win within 6 months.