there were signs all around my uni that said “dump your socialist boyfriend” for like NO reason 😭😭

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    All what you’re saying and more are big problems by European standards. And yet, the most insane Polish catholic will be seen as moderate woke by the most enlightened American public. Polland’s remarkably high religious observance is actually 30% of Catholics attended a mass at least once a year, according to 2024 numbers that I could find. Which actually down from 50% over last three decades with continuing downwards trend.
    So yeah, if you look for very specific things like Pentecostsls in Romania, you can find some anomalies that you can then spin as a catastrophe, but the fact that you needed to do this anomaly hunt in the first place says enough.

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      the most insane Polish catholic will be seen as moderate woke by the most enlightened American public

      That’s not remotely true. And we know we isn’t true, because Victor Orban is out here funding CPAC. They’re all the same guys, in conversation with one another

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        Victor Orban is also very much not Polish, but what does it matter, right?
        Anyway, sure, you’re technically correct, the most insane Polish Catholic is insane. Serves me right for trying to insert some literary flér of hyperbole in this serious scientific conversation.
        We were talking about popluational trends and statistics though, in which case I will explicitly say that I’m talking about “median” population, not literaly the extreme 0.1%

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          Victor Orban is also very much not Polish

          Is he European?

          We were talking about popluational trends and statistics though

          Since the collapse of the USSR, the trend towards reactionary religious movements has only increased over time. You can definitely blame this on western evangelicals and Catholics piling into these countries during their brief liberalization phase. But to say Europe lacks a large and wealthy Christian community is to deny what’s in front of your eyes.

          I will explicitly say that I’m talking about “median” population, not literaly the extreme 0.1%

          The extreme 0.1% are the ones with all the money.

          Past that, European parliaments all have their variation on the Christian Democrat Party. The CDU/CSU coalition is currently the largest party bloc in Germany, following the ignominious collapse of Olaf’s Greens. Idk how you win 208 MPs without a plurality of popular support.