• OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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    Oh right the old everyone kills their neighbors defense so all genocide is a-ok.

    Not even remotely close to what I said.

    Feels like you are finally admitting to the imperialism at least

    Not even remotely close to what I said.

    “States existing” is neither imperialism nor colonialism lmao. Is Switzerland imperialist?

    Yeah no, I hold the modern world to a higher standard than that sorry.

    A higher standard than could theoretically exist, yes you do. By setting a standard that’s completely impossible for any state to achieve, you can “both sides” anything.

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      Did modern day switzerland (post ww2 seems like a good line but I’m open on this) draw a random ass claim on parts of France and fill the river with skeletons? That’s certainly not in any history book I’ve ever seen

      And no need to say it, it’s the obvious conclusion to your points. Just gotta step away from the boot.

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        Moving the goalposts. What you said was:

        Right a power drawing a line on a map claiming land and then enforcing that claim via violence totally isn’t colonialism.

        “Switzerland” is just some lines drawn on a map enforced via violence. So is “France.” So is literally every country.

        Why would the line have to include territory that was part of another country? That’s not what you said, nor is it what China did.

        As I said, Tibet had already been a part of China for 200 years. It broke away much like the Confederacy broke away from the US, and like the US, China reasserted control and freed the people from slavery.

        And no need to say it, it’s the obvious conclusion to your points. Just gotta step away from the boot.

        You’re not asking me to step away from any boot, you’re asking me to lick the boots of authoritarian slaver theocrats.

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          And we’ve looped right back round to the pro-colonalism logic. Cool cool

          Anyway thanks for the several hours of entertainment. I also find the lengths authoritarians go to to justify their preffered state’s actions fascinating. Very similar to the logic that anti-vaxxers and flat earthers use. Hubris about the same as an anti-vaxxer. You truly made this train ride a little faster.

          May your boot be firmly lodged 🖖