Euronationalism (often styled Evronationalism to show it’s reactionary nature) is just a term I picked up in other leftist online communities.
It’s used to refer to e.g. liberals who are not necessarily nationalist for “their own” nation, but rather have developed a form of nationalism for the EU, thinking that supporting a (neo-)colonialist and imperialist fortress is somehow progressive…
okay. so it would denote like… a sense of patriotistic fervor directed toward EU with a sense of superiority that the EU should be the dominant top down force in the world rather than a belief that there should be sense of solidarity and cooperation amongst the workers on the European continent?
sounds roughly analagous to the difference between Americanism and Pan-Americanism if i’m understanding correctly?
IDK how to explain it. It’s not necessarily about domination. A majority of europe comms are Evornationalist, even the one on dbzer0. Most prominently on feddit.org tho. Volt is Evronationalist as well e.g.
huh. okay. sounds like the european-liberal position is less violent and expansionistic than i was thinking and more just… passively tolerant of paleoconservatism and fascism than what i was using as my mental model. goes to show the value of knowing your role and staying in your lane since all politics are ultimately local first.
i’ll think about if i should edit my comment since it sounds like i’ve used evronationalism not quite right since i was thinking more about nationalist/expansionist/imperialist movements that have sought to unify the continent through violent subjugation. as it stands i think the gist of what i’m saying about historic cycles of violence still holds, but i’ve unintentionally muddied the waters of something that isn’t quite what i was thinking of. and i ABSOLUTELY don’t want to muddy the waters between pan-europeanism and the form eurocentric nationalism i’m trying to describe, which is super common in pseudointellectual discourse, to the extent that the two are even conflated in some encyclopedias and political science dictionaries despite representing diametrically opposing viewpoints on what the region of Europe even is.
perhaps this is why i’m struggling to have a term on hand. it’s the desire of the definers we conflate them rather than see them as different
Oh hey, an “@”, hii.
Euronationalism (often styled Evronationalism to show it’s reactionary nature) is just a term I picked up in other leftist online communities.
It’s used to refer to e.g. liberals who are not necessarily nationalist for “their own” nation, but rather have developed a form of nationalism for the EU, thinking that supporting a (neo-)colonialist and imperialist fortress is somehow progressive…
okay. so it would denote like… a sense of patriotistic fervor directed toward EU with a sense of superiority that the EU should be the dominant top down force in the world rather than a belief that there should be sense of solidarity and cooperation amongst the workers on the European continent?
sounds roughly analagous to the difference between Americanism and Pan-Americanism if i’m understanding correctly?
IDK how to explain it. It’s not necessarily about domination. A majority of europe comms are Evornationalist, even the one on dbzer0. Most prominently on feddit.org tho. Volt is Evronationalist as well e.g.
huh. okay. sounds like the european-liberal position is less violent and expansionistic than i was thinking and more just… passively tolerant of paleoconservatism and fascism than what i was using as my mental model. goes to show the value of knowing your role and staying in your lane since all politics are ultimately local first.
i’ll think about if i should edit my comment since it sounds like i’ve used evronationalism not quite right since i was thinking more about nationalist/expansionist/imperialist movements that have sought to unify the continent through violent subjugation. as it stands i think the gist of what i’m saying about historic cycles of violence still holds, but i’ve unintentionally muddied the waters of something that isn’t quite what i was thinking of. and i ABSOLUTELY don’t want to muddy the waters between pan-europeanism and the form eurocentric nationalism i’m trying to describe, which is super common in pseudointellectual discourse, to the extent that the two are even conflated in some encyclopedias and political science dictionaries despite representing diametrically opposing viewpoints on what the region of Europe even is.
perhaps this is why i’m struggling to have a term on hand. it’s the desire of the definers we conflate them rather than see them as different
I’m sorry I don’t have the capacity to respond in full. I would say both can be forms of Euronationalism tho