spoiler alert-> Hasan is a decent person don’t listen to the nonsense mud being slung at him.

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    If you haven’t noticed, young people are very impressed with how life in China seems to be getting better and better while our own lives get worse and worse. Chinamaxxing etc

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      Yes, Chinese propaganda has lots of success recently. China is a rising power and the USA are in crisis.

      China has industrialized extremely well and is now even competitive in research and cutting edge technology. Millions of Chinese living in the rich coastal cities have gained an almost western standard of living. The situation is very different in rural areas. There are also lots of issues with worker’s rights, safe working conditions, environment, etc.

      What Hasan Piker likes about China are superficial things like the communist aesthetics, high speed rail, executions of corrupt billionaires, and anti western sentiment.

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        I’m pretty sure Hasan Piker also likes how Chinese life expectancy has surpassed the US, how Chinese literacy rates have surpassed the US, how Chinese homelessness is lower than the US, etc etc. Those are hardly superficial things.

        Like I said, life in China is getting better and better (even in rural areas, though it’s slower) and life in the US is getting worse.

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          The same is true for most other developed countries. You could talk about health care in Sweden, education in Finland, homelessness in Switzerland, life expectancy in Japan, and high speed rail in France. All of them are liberal democracies.

          Communist aesthetics are the main reason for Hasan. He’s is all about aesthetics in everything he does.

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            Developed countries staying developed isn’t really remarkable.

            Developing countries becoming developed is actually remarkable, because countries usually end up stuck in underdevelopment as they’re ruthlessly exploited by the global economy. China is finally escaping a trap that has ensnared the rest of the Global South.

            Compare that to a developed country like the US seemingly falling into underdevelopment. The contrast is remarkable, too.

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              China became developed by embracing market capitalism. China had decades of braindead economic policies with gigantic failures resulting in millions of deaths.

              Lots of other countries have done this as well all over Asia and elsewhere.

              Countries stuck in development hell usually suffer from weak Institutions, mismanagement, corruption, lack of diversification, ideological insanity, and such.

              The best comparison to China is Taiwan.

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                It didn’t embrace it, it used it. The commanding heights of the economy are still controlled by the Communist Party and the economy is still centrally planned. That’s why, during the pandemic, they could tell the market to shut down and implement the government’s Zero COVID restrictions. Politics are in command. The only market economies that could show similar results from the pandemic were islands that didn’t need to actually shut the economy down because they could simply restrict travel.

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                  Yes, the Chinese government is able to be very oppressive, if it chooses to. At times this can have good outcomes.

                  Their political system suppressed information around COVID, which arguably made this whole situation a lot worse for everybody. The super harsh measures in China might not have been necessary otherwise. China systematically undercounted their COVID death toll by at least a factor of ten as well.

                  The failure of China to be transparent about the lab leak fueled conspiracy theories and misinformation worldwide.

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                    I’m sure the West didn’t have anything to do with creating and spreading lab leak conspiracy theories to smear China.

                    Even if they under-counted by a factor of ten (which seems like a pretty extreme estimate) they still outperformed other non-island market economies by a significant margin. Their official death rate was 85 deaths per million. I’m no mathematician but I’m pretty sure that means, by a factor of ten, the “real” death rate was 850 deaths per million.

                    Now lets look at those other developed countries you listed:

                    Sweden: 2,798 per million
                    Finland: 2,058 per million
                    Switzerland: 1,611 per million
                    Japan (another Island): 597 per million
                    France: 2,616 per million

                    Looks like China did amazingly well, even if you inflate their numbers. In the same order of magnitude as Japan, a literal island.