• Semester3383@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    I’m just curious -

    Starting with the clear and obvious provision that Israel has stolen Palestinian land, and has been killing Palestinians for over half a century -

    What is the “right” way for Palestinians to resist Israel? How should they fight back? Please, paint a picture for me in a way that shows how they can effectively stop Israel from killing more people, and stealing ever more land, until the Palestinians have been completely wiped out.

    Consider, while you’re at it, that the US has been arming Israel for decades, and has been using it’s own military force to prevent other countries in the region from holding Israel to account. Sure, Iran could do something, except that the US has sold Israel the arms and technology to stop Iranian retaliation, and has also had Iran under embargo for so long that Iran is a disaster. (Not saying that the ayatollah is good, but maybe if the US hadn’t been propping up the shah, we wouldn’t have a religious nutter in charge.)

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      10 months ago

      The posted comment never represents one side as “good”. It correctly identifies one side as resisting imperialism and colonialism, while acknowledging its lack of perfection.

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        10 months ago

        There is no excusing rape and murder of civilians. You can’t handwave such atrocities as imperfection

        • The D Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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          10 months ago

          You’re posting hasbara again, and what’s more is it’s “every accusation is a confession” shit with a growing mountain of evidence that Israel military forces like the IDF and IOF use sexual violence to terrorize Palestinian civilians as well as incoming aid workers trying to help starving children.

          Please stop re-perpetuating this harmful and wrong misinformation.

      • null@piefed.nullspace.lol
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        10 months ago

        “Imperfect resistance” ahhh, the classic terrorist supporter dog-whistle.

        Much like MAGAs “novel legal theory”

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            10 months ago

            circular and inane

            I genuinely don’t think you know what either of those words mean if you think they apply to what I said.

            You are describing terrorists by using normatively loaded language to make them sound like just little guys trying their best and making little mistakes. It’s disgusting.

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              10 months ago

              Israel is a terrorist state that calls as terrorists those who challenge its ambitions of occupation, apartheid, and genocide.

              Being vilified by Israel is not one and the same as being fundamentally wicked.

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                  10 months ago

                  Hamas is labeled terrorist because it was assigned the label by Israel.

                  Hamas is terrorist only as much as one terrorist entity is credible to decide exactly which groups or factions are terrorist.

                  More generally, terrorist simply is a label states assign to their non-state enemies.

                  By the same standards, the Continental Army would be terrorist, as would be essentially every belligerent that has engaged in anti-colonial struggle.

                  Regardless, it should be concrete facts, not abstract labels, that are used to support arguments and conclusions.

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        10 months ago

        Anarchists are not tankies.

        Campism is support, usually largely uncritical, for imperialist powers opposed to the US, in spite of such supporters identifying as leftists, who oppose all imperialism. Critical support for a tiny, oppressed resistance movement fighting apartheid and genocide is not campism.

            • goat@sh.itjust.works
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              10 months ago

              Hey now, Instance rule “be respectful,” buddy – As per your report

              Are you defending Hamas or are in support of Hamas? Should be a pretty easy answer, yeah?

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                10 months ago

                I sympathize generally with the posted comment.

                Hamas is currently the only credible resistance against the genocidal apartheid terrorist entity of Israel.

                Whether your mind is capable of parsing the nuance is beyond my control.

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                  10 months ago

                  Hamas is currently the only credible resistance

                  I’m sick and tired of seeing this shit. What fucking credibility does Hamas have? They’ve been in power for 20 years and what have they achieved? Their only acts of “resistance” is terrorist attacks against civilians, that’s it. They quite literally haven’t done a single thing to resist Israel whatsoever.

                  This entire debacle is their doing. They spent a long time planning the Oct 7th attacks, broke the status quo, declared a holy war, and now tens of thousands of Gazans are dead because of it. Those terrorist attacks that led to this current situation is their crown achievement. The result? Israel bombed the entire strip into the ground, the IDF marched right in unopposed, they started massacring civilians, and now they control everything. Where’s the opposition? Where’s the resistance? Hamas has resisted shit since their inception.

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    10 months ago

    He’s basically using an utterly irrational argument to defend an already 100% confirmed terrorist group!