$99 isn’t bad at all when you compare what you can do with it to any ‘pro gamer’ controller out there. It has massive programmable potential comparatively to a normal Xbox controller. Pro controllers usually run $150 and up. Yes this is pricier than a shit ass China controller but you’re also getting a massive amount of flexibility with it.
I appreciate the enthusiasm but the controller market offers way more than you think. There are fantastic controllers with great hardware and software for less than a standard Xbox controller. I went deep after two Xbox controllers failed fairly quickly and I expect great things from any controller that is $100. I’ve gotten used to mechanical switches, strong layouts, software and software-free options with onboard memory, and so on.
There are no controllers, no matter the price point, with touchpads like this, capacitive thumb sticks etc. And the stuff you can do with Steams controller settings is WAY beyond any other controller software.
The track pads are for sure unique and cool. The lack of proper adjustable short-throw triggers and the non-mechanical buttons will feel bad to what I am used to. I may still get one for the reason you point out though, I could play Age of Empires with it and further embrace my casual nature.
There are so many videos of people going through insane quantities of controllers. I would say to take each with a grain of salt though, as a lot of preference comes in. For me, I wanted mechanical buttons + triggers, buttons on the back, and an option to switch to short triggers that felt better than a lot of the ones where a feeble piece of plastic seems to just slide in the way. I tried quite a few, gave some to friends, and ended up championing the GameSir Cyclone 2. It is not perfect, but it works with my Linux setup and feels great with all the clickyness everywhere. My gripe is how the thing looks: it isn’t a pretty controller in my opinion. I think I got mine for around $50 with the dock included. I think standard is $50 without dock and $10 more for with the dock.
I do have my eyes on some other options though. Mostly because the start and select buttons are in a stupid spot on the Cyclone 2. Nothing has swayed me away from it yet though, and that has only been a problem in games where I push those very very frequently (I have no navigation skills and open my maps very often).
Notably, Linux support sucks with those. I have one, and you can’t do any of this on Linux through their software. There are ways to do it still though, as you can do with any controller really.
Linux hardware support is excellent given that 8bitdo is the usual recommended brand. The software part is the one lacking, but you can easily configure it via steam. I have one on Linux, I game without issues.
Is there any 8bitdo controller with 4 additional back buttons, too? Those are clutch for dual stick games; I’m almost always remapping then to the face buttons so I never need to stop moving or looking to do an action.
But yeah; the touchpads are critical. So many games become playable with touchpads. Nested radial menus allow for effectively infinitely many controls, which allows for most simulation games. Many Path of Exile builds are unplayable without back buttons and trackpad radial menus, due to input requirements.
tbh, I often play games on my Deck instead of my gaming PC for the controller. It’s really that good. (Although nothing beats kB+mouse for FPSs.)
Two of them are up by the triggers, though. And in Bazzite, you need to be connected via Bluetooth to use them (they’re not available with the RF dongle).
Hmm. That kinda makes sense, if they’re new; Bazzite is immutable, so I imagine it’s using an outdated kernel that doesn’t have recent drivers. I’d be curious if it works with SteamOS or CachyOS, as they’re both gaming focused distros with frequent updates (CachyOS moreso than SteamOS, afaik.)
$99 isn’t bad at all when you compare what you can do with it to any ‘pro gamer’ controller out there. It has massive programmable potential comparatively to a normal Xbox controller. Pro controllers usually run $150 and up. Yes this is pricier than a shit ass China controller but you’re also getting a massive amount of flexibility with it.
I appreciate the enthusiasm but the controller market offers way more than you think. There are fantastic controllers with great hardware and software for less than a standard Xbox controller. I went deep after two Xbox controllers failed fairly quickly and I expect great things from any controller that is $100. I’ve gotten used to mechanical switches, strong layouts, software and software-free options with onboard memory, and so on.
There are no controllers, no matter the price point, with touchpads like this, capacitive thumb sticks etc. And the stuff you can do with Steams controller settings is WAY beyond any other controller software.
The track pads are for sure unique and cool. The lack of proper adjustable short-throw triggers and the non-mechanical buttons will feel bad to what I am used to. I may still get one for the reason you point out though, I could play Age of Empires with it and further embrace my casual nature.
Do share your wisdom. By which I mean the sauce.
There are so many videos of people going through insane quantities of controllers. I would say to take each with a grain of salt though, as a lot of preference comes in. For me, I wanted mechanical buttons + triggers, buttons on the back, and an option to switch to short triggers that felt better than a lot of the ones where a feeble piece of plastic seems to just slide in the way. I tried quite a few, gave some to friends, and ended up championing the GameSir Cyclone 2. It is not perfect, but it works with my Linux setup and feels great with all the clickyness everywhere. My gripe is how the thing looks: it isn’t a pretty controller in my opinion. I think I got mine for around $50 with the dock included. I think standard is $50 without dock and $10 more for with the dock.
I do have my eyes on some other options though. Mostly because the start and select buttons are in a stupid spot on the Cyclone 2. Nothing has swayed me away from it yet though, and that has only been a problem in games where I push those very very frequently (I have no navigation skills and open my maps very often).
Functionally, you can do the same Steam Input customization on a $50 8bitdo that you can on this $100 controller.
Just no trackpads.
Notably, Linux support sucks with those. I have one, and you can’t do any of this on Linux through their software. There are ways to do it still though, as you can do with any controller really.
Linux hardware support is excellent given that 8bitdo is the usual recommended brand. The software part is the one lacking, but you can easily configure it via steam. I have one on Linux, I game without issues.
FWIW… Bazzite has full Steam Input support for mine… It even has a picture of my specific controller.
Steam Input works fine. I’m specifically talking about their custom software for the controller, which is also used to update firmware.
Is there any 8bitdo controller with 4 additional back buttons, too? Those are clutch for dual stick games; I’m almost always remapping then to the face buttons so I never need to stop moving or looking to do an action.
But yeah; the touchpads are critical. So many games become playable with touchpads. Nested radial menus allow for effectively infinitely many controls, which allows for most simulation games. Many Path of Exile builds are unplayable without back buttons and trackpad radial menus, due to input requirements.
tbh, I often play games on my Deck instead of my gaming PC for the controller. It’s really that good. (Although nothing beats kB+mouse for FPSs.)
My Ultimate 2 Wireless has 4 extra buttons.
Two of them are up by the triggers, though. And in Bazzite, you need to be connected via Bluetooth to use them (they’re not available with the RF dongle).
Hmm. That kinda makes sense, if they’re new; Bazzite is immutable, so I imagine it’s using an outdated kernel that doesn’t have recent drivers. I’d be curious if it works with SteamOS or CachyOS, as they’re both gaming focused distros with frequent updates (CachyOS moreso than SteamOS, afaik.)