• Omgpwnies@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    You deferred to authority with your reference to a blog that defines classes of people as “westerners” and “proletariat bourgeoisie”. Those definitions are then used throughout the article as though they are commonly known entities, and even further entities that should be considered a lesser class. Regardless of the article you linked, the quotes that you selected use the terminology I am questioning.

    So I am asking to define what those classes are, and which people are bound to that definition? I own my house, but not my means of production; does that make me a “proletariat bourgeoisie” or just a modern peasant? What if someone owns a small business but rents an apartment?

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      18 hours ago

      You deferred to authority with your reference to a blog

      Jesus Christ, any time I cite any sort of theory about anything people immediately jump down my throat with this “appeal to authority” bullshit.

      I referenced the blog not because it has any sort of “authority” but because it explains the concept quite well.

      I’m sorry that, apparently unlike you, I’m capable of respecting insight regardless of whether it’s written in the most proper, ideologically correct phrasing.

      So I am asking to define what those classes are, and which people are bound to that definition?

      No. Message the author if you want a definition. I already told you I wouldn’t use the term personally.

      The overall point is quite clear regardless of that terminology. And you haven’t said a single thing to contest that point, you’re just whining about phrasing for no apparent reason.

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        17 hours ago

        No. Message the author if you want a definition

        No, I’m asking you for your definition. Who are you punching down on? If you don’t know, then you are assuming their definitions.

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          17 hours ago

          What they mean is the proletariat of exploitative countries, those in the imperial core, who they see as having a distinct class character from the proletariat of exploited countries.

          Does that satisfy your pointless pedantry? Of course not. Now you’ll find another pointless detail to quibble over, or you’ll nitpick my definition. Because the point being made seems to have struck a nerve with you, but you can’t actually find anything to counter it so you focus on this nonsense.

          If the shoe fits, wear it. I’m guessing you know it’s true, at least on some level, and that’s why you’re doing this.

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            16 hours ago

            Does that satisfy your pointless pedantry? Of course not.

            Of course not, because you haven’t answered my question. What’s a Westerner? What’s a Bourgeoisie Proletariat?

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              12 hours ago

              Liberal’s brain conveniently stopped working. All knowledge that could inconvenience them just magically disappeared.

              Repeats “I am very stupid” ten times in a row, thinks repeating a lie often enough makes it true. Must have been a very painful hit to the liberal worldview.

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              16 hours ago

              Literally just did.

              Is this how I find out I have psychic powers? Who could’ve predicted this?

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                  16 hours ago

                  Yet again, completely ignoring the actual point so you can do this pointless nickpicking and pedantry. Not one word that you’ve said has actually been relevant to anything. Extremely predictable, again, it’s because you know it’s true and you’re defensive about it.

                  Christ almighty you’ll

                  I already told you it’s not even my fucking term.

                  Now, WHAT’S A WESTERNER?

                  Seriously? You can fucking google it, dumbass. Everyone knows what a Westerner is.