• ivn@tarte.nuage-libre.fr
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        10 hours ago

        Yes, but not for targeting, as explained in the article I linked.

        The Maven Smart System is the platform that came out of those exercises, and it, not Claude, is what is being used to produce “target packages” in Iran.

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          Anthropic’s AI did data analysis for Project Maven, which was a system that used data analyzed by various sources to target a school. So the AI is part of the “kill-chain” no?

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            9 hours ago

            I suggest you read the article.

            The AI underneath the interface is not a language model, or at least the AI that counts is not. The core technologies are the same basic systems that recognise your cat in a photo library or let a self-driving car combine its camera, radar and lidar into a single picture of the road, applied here to drone footage, radar and satellite imagery of military targets. They predate large language models by years. Neither Claude nor any other LLMs detects targets, processes radar, fuses sensor data or pairs weapons to targets. LLMs are late additions to Palantir’s ecosystem. In late 2024, years after the core system was operational, Palantir added an LLM layer – this is where Claude sits – that lets analysts search and summarise intelligence reports in plain English. But the language model was never what mattered about this system.

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              Yes. I never said it was an LLM. It was probably some custom AI system made by Anthropic.

              Are we agreed that some Anthropic AI system (not necessarily the Claude LLM) was in the kill chain? That was what I was trying to say from the beginning.

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                9 hours ago

                Well you’ll need to source your claim. The wiki article you linked only mention Claude.

                The Anthropic contract is also quite recent compared to Maven creation.

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                  My sources are already linked in my two earlier comments. What about them are you disputing?

                  I don’t see how the recency matters. That Anthropic was not involved in bombings conducted by the US military in previous years does not absolve them of their involvement in the bombing of the school in Minab.

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                    8 hours ago

                    They only mention Claude, where is the source that “some custom AI system made by Anthropic”, not a LLM, “was in the kill chain”?

                    I mean, I get that you want to tie Anthropic to this, I don’t like them either but we should stay factual and avoid filling the gaps with some “probably”. It’s also counterproductive as Maven and Palantir are huge menaces and this shift the blame away from them.