• CutieBootieTootie [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    22 hours ago

    You’re boxing ghosts, if you live in the imperial territories, your only possibility to change things is inside those imperial territories. I grew up in the United States which Jose Marti referred to as the belly of the beast. I am speaking from my own perspective as a white American. We do not have the right to dictate Korean people or Korean politics.

    What many white Americans and other privileged people of the imperial territories pass of as critique is really white chauvinism in disguise, not seriously attempting to understand the systems or people that their empire is trying to crush. I’ve done my best to try and educate myself on Korean history and politics as I can as an outsider, but I don’t think it’s relevant to the ultimate and final point that those living in the imperial territories should advocate against their empire at all costs.

    You can browbeat me all you want if you’d like, but it doesn’t mean anything because I know the following principles are true

    1. This post was made by a member of the imperial core
    2. This post doesn’t try to seriously engage with Korean politics, but instead to ridicule it from a place of chauvinism and to try and decry socialism as they see it
    3. Weirdo racist shit that conforms to the two prior points should be dorked on and made fun of

    I’m not saying that you shouldn’t seriously engage and discuss this stuff. I think if it’s relevant to you and you would like to, why not? But obviously weirdo racist shit, like the posts that we’re commenting under, is clearly not contributing to any greater understanding of Korean politics and instead seeks to demonize an entire society, which at the end of the day makes American intervention easier.

    • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
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      6 hours ago

      You’re boxing ghosts, if you live in the imperial territories, your only possibility to change things is inside those imperial territories. I grew up in the United States which Jose Marti referred to as the belly of the beast. I am speaking from my own perspective as a white American. We do not have the right to dictate Korean people or Korean politics.

      You are again framing this as if I am attempting to dictate how other countries are governed. Educating people about other countries and how western imperialism has affected them throughout history has nothing to do with that.

      What many white Americans and other privileged people of the imperial territories pass of as critique is really white chauvinism in disguise, not seriously attempting to understand the systems or people that their empire is trying to crush.

      And westerners who are only critical of history through the lens of a campist perspective are also a form of white chauvinism. The Soviet Union was a white European state that interjected itself onto Korean history as well. Just because they were not as bad as the US does not give them a free pass to unlimited uncritical support.

      1. This post was made by a member of the imperial core
      1. This post doesn’t try to seriously engage with Korean politics, but instead to ridicule it from a place of chauvinism and to try and decry socialism as they see it
      2. Weirdo racist shit that conforms to the two prior points should be dorked on and made fun of

      You are again ignoring the fact that I never said you shouldnt be critical of the post, I am critical of the post. I am rejecting how you critiqued the post.

      I’m not saying that you shouldn’t seriously engage and discuss this stuff. I think if it’s relevant to you and you would like to, why not?

      You did several times…

      But obviously weirdo racist shit, like the posts that we’re commenting under, is clearly not contributing to any greater understanding of Korean politics and instead seeks to demonize an entire society, which at the end of the day makes American intervention easier.

      If you would have just originally posted this, I wouldn’t have any issues with it.