• reksas@sopuli.xyz
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    3 days ago

    the most stupid thing in opposing this is that what are you going to even lose? The factory that you didnt own? The apartment that you dont own?

    • Phunter@lemmy.zip
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      3 days ago

      People tend to equate ownership with protections. So they think “owning” land (e.g. property with a house) allows them safety from things like “other random people living too close to me”.

      Therefore, if they didn’t own their property, another person might start cohabiting with them, steal from them, harm them, etc, and they would be powerless to prevent this scenario.

      This isn’t to say that this is correct, but this is the reality people have bought into. So even if they don’t own their workplace, nobody technically “owning” the workplace feels less secure (to them) than if it were “owned”.

      Again, this is not my disposition, but one that I have come to understand many people hold.

    • Mr_WorldlyWiseman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      2 days ago

      I mean, plenty of people have differing views on this.

      I think I would support the idea of private ownership, but owning things like land should pay a land tax. Ownership means that improvements that you make to your property come back to benefit you, and that it cannot be arbitrarly re-assigned away from you by your co-operative/government (taking this further, a veto right against a democratic majority taking your non-commodity property).

      All regular work and production should be paid back to the workers in the form of voting shares in the democratic co-operative that owns the factory, to prevent authoritarian capitalists from embezzling labor like the billionaires do today.

      But I understand that many disagree with these statist ideas.