• Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works
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      Voting is the first, the easiest step to shaping politics. If you can’t even do that, I don’t trust you to do anything effective.

      • black_flag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        If it’s so easy, then what makes you think people who argue “voting doesn’t matter” aren’t also doing that (we are)? We just don’t care to let electoralists suck all the energy out of people who are willing to take action trying to get some loser elected who’s just gonna betray us all for half a buck anyway.

      • lumpenproletariat@quokk.auOPM
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        Voting does not solve shit. It is not a solution, it is a placebo. Real reform can only come from revolution, the system cannot change itself.

        • itsralC@lemmy.zip
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          I suppose you never take painkillers alongside antibiotics? Since only the second one can stop the illness

          • lumpenproletariat@quokk.auOPM
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            Do you ever see people promoting painkillers as a standalone solution? Because that’s 99% of voters entrenched into their tribe bullshit.

            • copygirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              Could you two three stop talking to the straw man you’ve built of the other side and actually engage with each other?

              • lumpenproletariat@quokk.auOPM
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                Engage with what? Electorialism is not a solution, there is no point engaging in it.

                Especially when the people who preach “you can vote and revolt” never push the revolt narrative, it’s only that voting that concerns them.

                • copygirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                  Engage with the person, not the mental image of what you think they are or represent.
                  To me it looked very much like you were talking past each other.

                  You don’t have to explain your stance to me, I understand it well enough.