• grte@lemmy.ca
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    5 days ago

    Hey look, it’s one of those American owned major Alberta papers.

    Putin and Trump deserve to rot in the same cesspit, they are the one and the same thing in my perspective when it comes to evaluating how much shit they try unleash on the world (whether or not one is more potent at doing is not a question I am trying to get here).

    The US is absolutely the primary foreign actor in this situation and all you are doing here is muddying the water. If you don’t know enough to know that, maybe your commentary on the subject ain’t worth much.

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      5 days ago

      Hey look, it’s one of those American owned major Alberta papers.

      Sure however it is not very sound logic that an American owned media outlet trying to stoke separatist movement warns Canada against foreign influence on separatist movements. I do genuinely believe that American owned Canadian news outlets are there to spread propaganda. But a more nuanced understanding of this is that the form of propaganda changes according to context. Around the time this news was released (2019), US’s main motivation probably wasn’t to stoke separatism in Canada but probably to fight it since US interests and Canadian interests aligned at the time. So they benefited more in fighting against Russian supported separatism. Now under Trump they have changed their foreign policies regarding this and have the same angle as Russia. I am not intent on proving that US is not a major player in stoking world-wide right wing extremism, my point is that they are currently partners with Russia on this.

      I can give you tens of more references regarding.

      https://disinfowatch.org/disinfo/putins-neo-fascist-philosopher-targets-canada-and-national-unity/

      https://www.canada.ca/en/global-affairs/news/2024/09/statement-by-minister-joly-on-russian-interference.html

      https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11361841/

      and you can repeat “meh don’t like this reference, it is west propaganda” until infinity.

      However, 1- Your fervour in discrediting any Russian influence on Canadian politics, to the level of being aggressive and insulting, 2- Just discrediting references that don’t align with your world view without providing any as counter proof or trying to understand nuances, 3-following the usual rhetoric of “it is US backed propaganda against Russia” and 4-Getting offended by me calling Putin the same turd that is Trump makes me think you are an ml alt account. If not consider joining.