A few days back I watched a SomeOrdinaryGamers video, in which he states to drive a Tesla car, despite expressing the obvious privacy concerns surrounding the built-in camera system; but doesn’t seem to consider the privacy-impact to those around the vehicle, he chooses to drive through public streets. And another example being Rob Braxman, while ironically, both known to frequently criticize other public-facing, internet connected surveillance systems (like Ring for example).

If it was “just” a cabin camera, staring you straight in the face every time you drive your car (and you’re somehow okay with that), it would still be a terrible look in context with your channel content, but at least it is contained to you personally. But knowingly driving these surveillance nightmares on wheels through public streets, subjecting others to that surveillance, while you represent pro-privacy channels online, is just inexcusably hypocritical to me. But perhaps it might just be me, so what are your thoughts?

  • FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works
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    7 hours ago

    Ayup I agree wtih you.

    It’s one example of a general prob. So much of tech now betrays the privacy of NON users. There are calculator apps, weather apps, prayer apps, fitness apps for phones. They scrape contacts. I’m in my friends contacts. Now a million data broker companies track my social graph despite I don’t give it tot hem.

    And Facebook ofc. They build Shadow Profiles on NON users. You never used FB? Well FB still buidls a profile of you. You can tell a lot about someone just from metadata. Who are your friends? Now we can infer your politics. Your educational level. Your hobbies.

    Oh, gmail too! When gmail started it was “Your new mailman will read your mail”. But in reading your mail it also reads MY mail.

    I guess, most ppl just do not think about it. They give personal data as much thought as I give my toothbrush. Personal data is invisible. We cannot touch it. Out of sight out of mind.

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      6 hours ago

      Yes, and everything you’ve touched, Rob has at least criticized on his channel; but somehow doesn’t apply to his Tesla car… I sometimes wonder how much these privacy advocates care for other’s privacy, versus their own and simply yapping about it.

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        6 hours ago

        Never heard of that guy myself but yeah I guess it’s human nature… we are good at rationalizing what we want to do.

        Personally I’m kinda torn. I would like an EV for environmental reasons. But all EVs seem to be horrible spyware on wheels. Even worse than internal combustion cars. Which already are pretty bad. At least newer ones are. My old ass car isn’t. But a modern EV? It’s so invasive.

        So I stick with my old ass car. But I grind my teeth. Because I want a lower impact vehicle. I use a bike or bus when I can. But sometimes Ican’t.