This morning while checking if Quokk.au’s new instance logo was federated out, I discovered that overnight we had been shadowbanned from the PieFed.Social Instance Chooser (This is a tool to help spread out users across the platform and help avoid funnelling users into the largest.)

Knowing that Rimu was happy to explain, I just asked for some clarification as we were visible on every other PieFed instance except his.

Apparently for ’ obvious reasons ', of which I can only assume is our left leaning anarchist/pro-trans stance we were chosen not be advertised on the PieFed flagship instance and first point of contact for many potential new users. Seeing as a large portion of our new users found us via this method, it will have a tangible effect on a small instance such as ours.

This was a pretty sad sight to see, and reflects the sort of petty drama that is emanating from the PieFed project lately. It’s now the third such move to discredit and harm left leaning instances by PieFed’s lead developer. This also shows a trend towards autocratic unilateral decision-making on Piefed.social, of which is starting to be run as a personal fiefdom without consulting the team or users.

I must commend Lemmy.ml for remaining neutral and not letting its own political leanings influence join-lemmy.org, while simultaneously condemn PieFed.social for this immature move that is harmful to the health of the Fediverse.


Following this exchange, Rimu announced a new update to PieFed allowing for some rather concerning things.

  • Modlog: Reason for the action is only shown from trusted instances, so abusive mods won’t have an audience. Admins can still see the reason though. Which instances are trusted is set in the admin UI.

This feature means problematic users can now go undetected, and will harm moderators ability to view their past moderation history. For example PieFed.social runs a ‘trusted’ list of only 34 instances, meaning any mod action taken by any of the hundreds of instances outside of this will not show up. So for example if Quokk.au was to ban a user for transphobia (our most common ban), this will not be reflected for piefed.social users potentially leading towards more hate speech on the Fediverse.

  • Instance silencing similar to Mastodon. A silenced instance is not defederated from but their posts do not show in the Popular or All feeds and their communities are not shown in Starter packs aka Topics. Their communities can still be found in the communities list and joined in the normal way. Once joined, posts in there show up in the subscribed feed as usual.

This is another way to shadowban instances and not ‘advertise’ them. Surely if an instance is problematic enough that a defederation would be in order rather than this reddit-like move.

  • meowmeow@quokk.au
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    7 hours ago

    Yawn. The billionaires control all the governments. Keep on showing us how you simp for the billionaires.

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      6 hours ago

      project harder. i just pointed out one system actually restrains the rich — you’re the one who needs all governments to look identical so you don’t have to update your tired, lazy worldview. now go tuck your billionaire boogeyman back into bed and maybe read a book.

      • meowmeow@quokk.au
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        6 hours ago

        You just simped for the billionaires while trying to get out of being accused of simping for billionaires.

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          reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit, is it? pointing out that one system actually curbs billionaires isn’t simping — it’s just a fact you can’t handle because your whole personality is ‘all governments bad, me smart.’ you’re not woke, you’re just lazy. now run along and practice arguing with someone who confuses cynicism for intelligence.

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            6 hours ago

            Ahh yes, right on queue with the personal insults. How many alts do you have because everyone I talk to from ML sounds identical. 🤖

            Thanks for giving up. Have a great one.

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              That’s cute — you throw the first punch, play victim when someone hits back, then pretend you’ve won because insults hurt your feelings. that’s not an argument, that’s a temper tantrum with a keyboard. and yeah, we sound identical because we actually read theory instead of cosplaying as a contrarian on reddit. now go clutch your pearls somewhere else — you started this, i just finished it.

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                  right on cue with the emojis — the official surrender flag of someone who ran out of points three replies ago. run along now, sweetie. try not to trip over your own smugness on the way out.

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                    You too sweetie. Enjoy living in America! 🎂🥱🧠🥱🥰🎂🥱💅🤓😍🤩😙😒😚🙀👹😻🤡👐🏻😾🤖🗣️💄🗣️💄👤👶🙏

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      “Noo don’t look at the executions of billionaires and corrupt officials, they’re fake! Better things aren’t possible! I’m not listening lalalala you’re a simp.”