• FishFace@piefed.social
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    9 hours ago

    I can’t find any corroboration of that, can you say more? The D&D thing specifically was started by someone whose son committed suicide and she attributed his death to D&D.

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      4 hours ago

      In addition to what the other poster responded, the “satanic panic” was fanned to divert attention away from very real pedophile rings. Just like pizzagate was started to deal with leaks of the epstein/trump ring.

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          2 hours ago

          I mean, there is no cnn story linking operation paperclip psychologists and other scientists, and the newly founded CIA, to attempts at creating a master race/gaining kompromat/having a good excuse for pedo parties, but you can find evidence scattered about if you feel like diving into it.

          There were early hits in the Laurel Canyon area in the 60s and 70s, then stuff scattered around the country, Nebraska, Nevada, Florida, New York, etc. In the early 80s there were a couple of sherifs, each in different states, who simultaneously started raising huge alarm bells because they discovered a genuinely well funded and organized network dedicated to smuggling children. A few years later the “panic” started, key figures from court cases “committed suicide” or had planes and cars crash horrifically, and then it was over.

          I was personally there for the beginning of “pizzagate”, begrudgingly spending time going through distilled and raw feeds because it was originally high quality information on financial trails created by one of these deeply embedded groups. Within less than two weeks it was completely destroyed by limited hangouts and utterly insane disinformation. Two weeks later that hit the regular news feeds.

          I don’t have a bunch of charlie-and-his-red-string links for you or a web of names and ties to things. They are useless anyway, as people either latch on to the wrong things and go schizo, or ignore years of methodical and sourced research. And anyway, that kind of research gets you attention I just don’t want.

          But the shape of these things is there. The above is plenty to get looking, yourself. You’ll see it if you are dedicated to raw information feeds and niche researchers who source their osint and don’t fall into their own navel. So be on the lookout.

          If you’re not dedicated to information in this way, don’t worry about it, just let the monsters in the dark do their thing. Nothing really to be done about them anyway.

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            2 hours ago

            Well thank you for your frankness but it sounds like there’s not sufficient evidence to convince me, or the ordinary person.

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              2 hours ago

              You misunderstand, there is plenty of evidence to convince you and the ordinary person. What there is not, is an expose by the captured media, as one would expect.

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                  1 hour ago

                  You misunderstand, there is plenty of evidence to convince you and the ordinary person. What there is not, is an expose article exposing this group by the captured media, as one would expect.

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                    1 hour ago

                    So there’s not enough evidence in the 40 years since the Satanic Panic got going for any investigative journalist from any publication to write an article about it.

                    Referring to “the captured media” doesn’t really dress that up any better. Enjoy your conspiracy theory, I hope you feel superior to the subscribers to all the conspiracy theories you don’t believe in.

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      6 hours ago

      The right wing of america and the various christian cultural movements/monoliths have been allies since roughly the reagan campaign. The power of that alliance is a large part of the republican’s base/power. The politicians on the right have a great deal of push on them to parrot christian talking points, like the satanic panic of various flavors that was pushed about music and activities like D&D.

      So while the d&d being evil may not have started as right wing propaganda, it quickly became so due to the way the cultural onus of christianity pushed politicians into acting. You can see the same thing with ‘christian’ values around political fighting with abortion, teenage pregnancy / sex education, israel (though that one is obviously much more complicated than just ‘church leaders fetishes -> politicians’ stances), ‘morality’ based laws around prostitution and gambling, etc.