it inevitably institutionalizes those people into positions of power over those others.
Yep, are still trying find a solution for this quandary
Nurses, caregivers, etc. aren’t “supposed” to have power over their patients, but they very often do.
Welcome to the mammalia Class. As a minor, did you consent to your caregivers’ care methods? Were you allowed to adult? Get educated?
no need to risk creating a power differential by forming a designated vanguard to rigidify it.
I just see it as Mammals protecting the next generation to make better outcomes. But there has to be a point when we relent that power to the generation we raised, so they are empowered to the same to their children. When that is, neuroscience says 25-29 for female brain, 30-35 males.
Yep, are still trying find a solution for this quandary
Ok but at that point, why still use “vanguard”? I’d understand wanting to reclaim it to mean something other than its historical meaning. But as it stands, when most people hear “vanguard”, they understand it to mean Lenin/Stalin. And I think anyone building a revolution based on a “vanguard” broadly speaking would need to be super fucking careful to not fall into that trap themselves.
Welcome to the mammalia Class. As a minor, did you consent to your caregivers’ care methods? Were you allowed to adult? Get educated?
This is why child liberation theory is a thing. You’re right that we give parents power over their children, and an anarchist analysis would say that’s a bad thing.
an anarchist analysis would say that’s a bad thing.
child liberation theory is a thing
I need you to reflect, how, why, and when. MLs, esp. guardians know when those liberations can be applied. For when, why, and∗ how you exercise those liberations is how those children will praxis and react in the future. Until children can just be born with all the knowledge and practice to be independent, Vanguarding them is in our selection as a species.
For when, why, ani how you exercise those liberations is how those children will praxis and react in the future.
I don’t know what this means. Someone not knowing how to liberate themselves and learning it from someone who does is not a state of them being under the power of the teacher. Teaching does not inherently entail restriction in autonomy and is only an assertion of power to the extent that we allow it to be.
Also, children’s liberation is absolutely a thing and you can/should read about it.
Educating the next generation on how they too have to liberate their own children is crucial vanguardism. This includes teaching children how to dearrest, defend, liberate, organizeds, intersect, aid, etc…
MLs are highly aware when, if ever, they’ll be able to do so for their comrades, and future comrades.
The theory of conceptualizing consequences and reflecting is a cognitive skill not many realize. Being ablemto formulate actions and review results is what allows us to progress.
None of this relates to my point though. Everything you mention here is possible (and as an anarchist, necessary) to carry out while treating the children as equals and not infringing on their autonomy.
Children are equals when they can treat each other autonomous. This requires empathy, and mutual intersecting practice. Getting there is why as a species we vanguard.
neuroscience says 25-29 for female brain, 30-35 males.
Science, even neuroscience, never says anything, it suggests things based on evidence but saying implies something is proven. However, that isn’t the point or within the ability of science.
Welcome to the mammalia Class. As a minor, did you consent to your caregivers’ care methods? Were you allowed to adult? Get educated?
Right which is exactly why things like Youth Liberation are so important. There needs to be more freedom and rights for those (fairly or unfairly) labelled youth. They need to have more autonomy over their bodies and other rights in the world.
Right which is exactly why things like Youth Liberation are so important. There needs to be more freedom and rights for those (fairly or unfairly) labelled youth. They need to have more autonomy over their bodies and other rights in the world.
🤝 glad we agree that children need to be empowered gradually until they are able to defend and free themselves off arrests. You also teach’em wilderness thriving training too, right?
We’re vegan, so it’s unlikely we would teach others to fish or hunt. But gathering we could do.
The problem isn’t we don’t know how, the problem is we do not have long with the young people, we are trying to teach them emotions, consent, and how to fight back against oppression etc.
Yep, are still trying find a solution for this quandary
Welcome to the mammalia Class. As a minor, did you consent to your caregivers’ care methods? Were you allowed to adult? Get educated?
I just see it as Mammals protecting the next generation to make better outcomes. But there has to be a point when we relent that power to the generation we raised, so they are empowered to the same to their children. When that is, neuroscience says 25-29 for female brain, 30-35 males.
Ok but at that point, why still use “vanguard”? I’d understand wanting to reclaim it to mean something other than its historical meaning. But as it stands, when most people hear “vanguard”, they understand it to mean Lenin/Stalin. And I think anyone building a revolution based on a “vanguard” broadly speaking would need to be super fucking careful to not fall into that trap themselves.
This is why child liberation theory is a thing. You’re right that we give parents power over their children, and an anarchist analysis would say that’s a bad thing.
I need you to reflect, how, why, and when. MLs, esp. guardians know when those liberations can be applied. For when, why, and∗ how you exercise those liberations is how those children will praxis and react in the future. Until children can just be born with all the knowledge and practice to be independent, Vanguarding them is in our selection as a species.
I don’t know what this means. Someone not knowing how to liberate themselves and learning it from someone who does is not a state of them being under the power of the teacher. Teaching does not inherently entail restriction in autonomy and is only an assertion of power to the extent that we allow it to be.
Also, children’s liberation is absolutely a thing and you can/should read about it.
Educating the next generation on how they too have to liberate their own children is crucial vanguardism. This includes teaching children how to dearrest, defend, liberate, organizeds, intersect, aid, etc… MLs are highly aware when, if ever, they’ll be able to do so for their comrades, and future comrades.
The theory of conceptualizing consequences and reflecting is a cognitive skill not many realize. Being ablemto formulate actions and review results is what allows us to progress.
None of this relates to my point though. Everything you mention here is possible (and as an anarchist, necessary) to carry out while treating the children as equals and not infringing on their autonomy.
Children are equals when they can treat each other autonomous. This requires empathy, and mutual intersecting practice. Getting there is why as a species we vanguard.
Science, even neuroscience, never says anything, it suggests things based on evidence but saying implies something is proven. However, that isn’t the point or within the ability of science.
Right which is exactly why things like Youth Liberation are so important. There needs to be more freedom and rights for those (fairly or unfairly) labelled youth. They need to have more autonomy over their bodies and other rights in the world.
🤝 glad we agree that children need to be empowered gradually until they are able to defend and free themselves off arrests. You also teach’em wilderness thriving training too, right?
We’re not sure that’s what we said or agreed exactly.
No, we have no ability to do that.
🫂. I know at the least mines will know how to fish, lay traps, hunt, and gather.
We’re vegan, so it’s unlikely we would teach others to fish or hunt. But gathering we could do.
The problem isn’t we don’t know how, the problem is we do not have long with the young people, we are trying to teach them emotions, consent, and how to fight back against oppression etc.