• backalleycoyote@lemmy.today
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      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vehicle-ramming_incidents_during_George_Floyd_protests

      Did everybody forget the “All Lives Splatter” movement that became a conservative slogan a few years ago? Or Rittenhouse, or the intimidation and retaliation both at the hands of police and their militia supporters?

      The left in America isn’t getting anywhere with roadblocks or national strikes because we’re not just up against bad government, we’re in a civil war with half the nation that is getting exactly what they want from their leaders, the ones who’ve proven time and again they will happily use a protest or demonstration as an excuse to harm/maim/kill and stand a good chance of getting off the hook. At a minimum running down a crowd of demonstrators will get you crowdfunded to a down payment on a home. The billionaire class can survive a strike with no noticeable impact on their day to day lives indefinitely, and as we can see with rising gas and food prices, the right will eat their personal losses if they are allowed to vent their anger on the people they already hated in the first place.

      The way out of this isn’t peaceful because we didn’t end up where we’re at peacefully.

    • underisk@lemmy.ml
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      Americans would turn this into a three day spectacle with costumes, food stands, and merch booths. Then they’d get bored, consider their civic duty fulfilled, and return home to their jobs and personalized media bubble.

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        personalized media bubble

        So I’m staying at a hotel with the family tonight, and it has cable, which we aren’t used to. We haven’t had cable tv since before they were even born.

        Put a movie on last night. Think it was Toy Story (1) on Freeform. Was definitely freeform.

        Anyways the kids fell asleep and after it was done, the “news” came on.

        At least I thought it was the news.

        And holy shit was their nose so far up Trump’s ass. I’m listening in the background while reading a book and I’m like “lie…lie…half truth…”. Then the sugary sweet pro-Israel rhetoric started.

        Literally every third word was something I had already read something with a completely different, and frankly far more realistic, perspective.

        I had no idea The 700 Club was still on, but the media bubble is absolutely real. And it’s thrown in front of you when you least expect it.

        Ya know, I pay for a news app that many youtubers promote (and I won’t name for sake of not sounding like a shill, but I’m sure many have heard of it). It shows what the media bias is on any given story. As in, how many right-leaning, left-leaning, and centrist news agencies had picked it up.

        And it’s incredibly telling, on any given day, seeing what one side picks up versus the other.

        Here’s some of today’s list…

        Like…honestly, most of the story isn’t even the content at this point, it’s who is reporting in it.

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          Just be aware that Media Bias Fact Checker tries to present itself as some institution with intense methodology but when you peel bask the mask it’s actually just one dude’s opinions.

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          Yes! I watched this regularly for many years, it’s an obscenity and unbelievably bat-shit crazy. Christianity has chosen the USA as the final battleground, it seems. The propaganda is off the charts, and think of it being repeated every Sunday in hundreds of thousands of churches filled with home-schooled Christian soldiers.

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            Dude I traveled to texas last year and drove between Houston, Austin, Dallas, and back to Houston.

            It was one thing seeing a stadium sized church on the side of the highway. But then seeing a billboard like a quarter mile away advertising Epoch fucking Times as a reliable and trustworthy source.

            I’m from the Northeast. That’s like…a whole different world. Except Austin. Austin was cool.

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        I know you’re probably referring to Occupy. In the aftermath of the 2019 protests in my country I’ve paid a little more attention to the regret in the voices of people who were a part of Occupy. How they thought at the time, how the politics of different participants evolved. I see a lot of parallels there and I don’t think I’m equipped to really get any insight out of that for the future.

        I don’t think it’s a uniquely American thing. Sometimes middle income people who are somewhat insulated from the worst of the system will have a reason to hit the streets. As a controlled fizzle-out of revolution sure it’s something that can never work. But it does break political taboos and exposes dynamics normally buried beneath the weight of “day-to-day” politics. Beirut 2019-2020 was a massive failure, a joke of a protest movement. Some people believably claim it’s the only time 1/5th of the population of a country protested with zero material political change. But I felt like I learned a lot about the social fabric of the country, about the state’s relationship with society, about how old civil war grudges still echo when I thought they wouldn’t.

        Or maybe you’re talking about the 2020 protests in the US. Dancing cops etc. I got nothing for you there chief

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      We’ve tried it a few times and the government just kills its citizens and calls them terrorists. Credit to the bolivian people but standing up to bolivian military and police is just a totally different thing than standing up to us military and police.