I upgraded 2.5 years ago and went with AM5 with the plan of entering low and exiting high (cheap mid CPU at start and one more with the best last).
I’m happy with my choice, since I upgrade the whole system every 5-8 years.
But I hold a small basket while this can also mean slow consumer innovation in the future due to AI hype… We will see…
Anyway next CPU in more than 3 years.
2029? I’ll likely end up skipping AM5 altogether, then.
Darling 5800X3D, carry us forward. 🙏
I bought into AM5 at launch for this reason. Ddr5 being “expensive” at the time is a drop in the bucket today. Planning at least once CPU upgrade this cycle. I actually bought a second set of ddr5 and m-ATX mobo before the price jump that’ll run my 7000-series CPU in a SFF case eventually. Just need a video card to pair with it whenever I do upgrade CPUs in my workstation.
When I went AM5 when that was new everyone was like DDR5 is overpriced. Stick with AM4 and buy a better GPU. 2029 AM5 at least now. I’ll be on AM5 until at least 2035. Really I want to take it to 2040
Die shrinks are over. You’re good for a long time.
My top of the line, no compromises PC built in 2016 benchmarks lower than my iPhone 15 Pro. If you’re keeping your PC that long for gaming, you’re insane.
People have different standards, and performance isn’t everything. The Steam Deck is basically equivalent to a mid-to-high-end PC from 2016, and there are tons of people using that as their main gaming PC even docked. I like to upgrade my main rig every 3 to 4 years, but that’s well into enthusiast territory. No one I know does the same.
I’d love to see what your iphone runs that makes you think it’s better than a 2016 pc.
My 2018 machine (9900k at 5GHz) blows every phone the fuck away, I’m for sure going to be using it in two years.
Shit, I have a 2014 machine that’s my dedicated VR machine for anything that doesn’t need crazy power (most VR games, honestly), 4790k and a 2070s.
What specs do you have that my phone would benchmark better than lawl
Yeah, I’m sure it really matters that your iphone can play subway surfers great at 142fps /s
Edit: not sure if you can really do an accurate “benchmark” when there isn’t any games to actually compare to
I’m using my 2016 machine for gaming. And it was not top of the line, by a long shot.
My i5-8350u laptop benchmarks slightly more than my Mi 11 lite did. Now I use a 2017 Redmi which is still fine. And I play older games on both my laptop and phone. It’s decent enough.
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In other words, there’s no way in hell we can innovate and make money right now, so you’re stuck here until the AI bubble bursts. Consumer innovation is on full stop while we focus on the corpos.
AM5 had a poor launch because of high memory prices in the pre AI era.
Releasing AM6 later might allow AMD to make the platform more economical at launch.
Or if they launch AM6 early and support AM5 via a dual socket generation (unlikely TBH), that’s also good. Use older memory for normal workloads. Upgrade if you want top of the line perf.
What about AM6?
What would be the point in this PC parts economy? There would be like 7 people buying it.
The point is not buying into a dead platform like I did with AM4.
Oh.
…I dunno what to tell you, then.
If you’re on a 5800X3D, AM5 is terrible upgrade value now. If you wait for DDR5 prices to come down, it will indeed be a “dead end platform” when you buy, as I don’t think AMD will release AM6 unless it’s DDR6.
If you do workstation stuff, get DDR4 threadripper (or even a fire sale EPYC server), and re-use half your RAM, but other than that I have no good advice.
I’m on a 2700x and a 2060 Super.
That’s basically my old PC!! I felt it was great for the last 6 years but I didn’t regret upgrading recently. Felt we really hit a wall finally with gaming tech.
Rocking 5700x3d and 4070S now can play literally anything (that doesn’t have kernal level anti cheat)
Oh.
If you need to upgrade, grab a 5800XD then (or any 5000 series X3D CPU), plus a mobo if you need it. Re-use your RAM. It’s significantly faster; you’ll be set for awhile without busting the bank on DDR5.
Well then I’m even further invested in a platform that’s been outdated for years.
It’s not though. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with a 5800X3D now, and there won’t be 2 years from now. It’s still fast, and a supremely practical choice.
Heck, if I lost my whole board+RAM now, that’s exactly what I’d get. I’d go back to AM4, and wait it out till AM6 or something good from Intel, because there’s nothing deficient about a 5800.
I wouldn’t worry about what is “outdated” anymore, everything is going to stall at these prices and older PCs will retain value and usefulness much longer. Look at the actual performance for the actual dollars spent. Locally I can get a 5800X for 1/3 of the price of a 9700X + 32GB ddr5 + mobo. 1/3 of the price for 70% of the performance seems like a no brainer, but it depends on your workload and requirements.
I’ve been on am4 for 6 years and will prob stay on it for another 5 years at this rate.
zen 7 and ddr6. there won’t be any ddr6 for you or me or anyone else without an unlimited bank account until this data center bullshit collapses.
until this data center bullshit collapses.
Yeah I figure that will happen first.
No point until there’s affordable consumer DDR6.
And CAMM modules, if I were to bet.
And that’s fine. PCIE5 is still underutilized, and big L3 cache can sort-of compensate for RAM speed.
CAMM for desktop form factor? Why
Well because the same advantages for mobile platforms translate to desktop.
Better signal integrity, higher speeds, lower latency and specifically for desktop better airflow in the case (+coolers no longer have to clear the height of the dimm).
Downsides are ramm problem diagnosis and upgradabillity (have to buy a whole new module can’t partially upgrade like with dimm).
