AMD in its Computex 2026 presentation, celebrated 10 years of the Socket AM4 platform that kickstarted the company's long march to competitiveness with Intel in the desktop PC processor market, and its eventual domination. Socket AM4 supports the original "Zen" and "Zen+," across the Ryzen 1000 and ...
  • brucethemoose@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 day ago

    It’s not though. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with a 5800X3D now, and there won’t be 2 years from now. It’s still fast, and a supremely practical choice.

    Heck, if I lost my whole board+RAM now, that’s exactly what I’d get. I’d go back to AM4, and wait it out till AM6 or something good from Intel, because there’s nothing deficient about a 5800.

    • artyom@piefed.socialEnglish
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      1 day ago

      There’s absolutely nothing wrong with a 5800X3D now

      Sure, other than it being several years old and outdated?

      there won’t be 2 years from now

      2 years is all I’m supposed to get!?

      wait it out till AM6

      …that’s what I’m saying.

      • brucethemoose@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        1 day ago

        There’s nothing outdated about it. It outruns most AM5 CPUs where you actually need the speed, it supports plenty of IO, it supports AVX2 and all sorts of platform features.

        And it’s not that expensive if you can re-use RAM. Especially not expensive if you can re-use the mobo.

        Full disclosure: I have a 7800X3D now. But I wouldn’t notice the difference if I had an 5800X3D 97% of the time; there’s literally one my sibling has that does all the same things, running a 7900 XTX GPU no problem.

        I would certainly prefer a 5800X3D to a 7600 or even a 7700.

        I don’t really see a point on upgrading it till AM6 either.

        There are certain things RAM bandwidth disproportionally helps with, but these are pretty niche.

                • artyom@piefed.socialEnglish
                  1·
                  1 day ago

                  It’s nothing to do with what I “need”. I don’t “need” anything more than my laptop. I can play Baldurs Gate 3 on a Steam Deck but it looks and runs like balls. The later hardware I can get, the better it will run. Its about maximizing value and longevity.

                  • brucethemoose@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    10·
                    1 day ago

                    Then a 5800X3D is maybe what you need.

                    AMD’s 3D cache is demonstrated to compensate for slower RAM. Tightened timings or lower bandwidth have proportionally less of an impact than non X3D CPUs because, in games, they are accessing RAM less, as more of it fits in cache. You can look up benchmarks proving this if you don’t believe me, or how the 5800X3D smacks 7000 series AM5 CPUs around in CPU-heavy simulation games.

                    It’s better than low-end AM5.

                    That, and the actual latency of high end DDR4 isn’t that different from DDR5.

                    Now. If you are encoding AV1? If you are trying to run llama.cpp hybrid inference? Yeah, raw RAM bandwidth starts to get important. But that niche does not include most games; games freaking love X3D cache.

                    …Though, honestly? On a Steam deck, or your desktop, RAM capacity and the 2060 are the big bottlenecks.

                    I used to game on a very similar system (laptop 4900HS CPU, 16GB DDR4, 2060 GPU), and my biggest problems in new games were:

                    • GPU power

                    • 6GB RAM/16GB VRAM being too small, especially with background programs.

                    The only times my CPU felt insufficient was in games that wanted raw simulation performance, like modded Rimworld, Stellaris, Parkitect and such. But it was plenty for huge RPGs.

                    There was never a time I lamented “ugh, I wish I had DDR5.” It’s just low on the totem pole, especially now.