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    • Rose@lemmy.zip
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      27 days ago

      There are countless links between Russia and neo-Nazism, be it Wagner, Rusich, Rogozin’s past, or how Putin’s government used white power skinheads in the early 2000s to earn political credit by letting them murder and beat up immigrants left and right. And funnily, many of the neo-Nazis in Ukraine, including in Azov, come from that same Russian scene. After they served their purpose, they were to be removed as to not pose a threat by turning into a political force, so many ended up fleeing to Ukraine.

      Unlike in Russia, whose neo-Nazis are driven purely by ideology, it’s a mixed bag in Ukraine, as the ideology there is intertwined with opposing an oppressor, be it Russia or the Soviet leadership. It’s all a matter of perspective. A Black Sun tattoo or a patch is barely a threat when that same person is there to save you from shelling, whereas a de facto fascist government without any clear Nazi attributes oppressing its own people and neighbors for decades is a huge problem.

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        26 days ago

        Still not a fan of Banderites though. Even if they are part of those doing the saving, they still follow a hateful nationalist ideology. Once the war is over, Ukraine should focus on denazification of some of it’s forces such as deradicalization programs and stuff. Or do a civic nationalism focus like US once did where it’s like “be kind to your fellow Ukrainian, regardless of race, ethnicity, sex, gender identity, sexual orientation, religion etc.”.

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          26 days ago

          Even if Ukraine gets to force Russia out of its regions and the war is officially over, every country west of Russia understands the ever-looming threat, so I don’t know if Ukraine would want to touch some of its most experienced and battle-ready units. At the same time, joining the EU could also mean stricter enforcement of hate speech laws so that if anybody who decides to take their ideology beyond their personal space and attack others faces judgement. As it’s been said, there’s not much support for the far-right parties among the Ukrainian population, so that part of the ideology is less of a threat.