• roofuskit@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    So it’s ok for that to happen with people who have the money to get out but not poor people?

    I don’t think you understand how bail works. It’s not always granted and cash bail doesn’t solve the issue you raised.

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      3 hours ago

      It’s not poor people who commit crimes. Crimes happen at all levels. BUT, how about don’t commit any crimes in the first place?! Ever thought about that?! I get mistakes happen and issues arise for innocent people. Been there, done that. But at the same time, bigger crimes have bigger bail, and it’s harder to “accidentally” commit bigger crimes.

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        3 hours ago

        People who are convicted of crimes don’t get bail. I think you need to learn a lot more about this justice system before digging in on these opinions.

        Innocent people have their lives destroyed awaiting trial all the time.

        You are presuming guilt just because of an arrest, that’s anti-american.

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          I’m not presuming anything. Hence why I said I get mistakes happen and arise for innocent people. Been there, done that. I’ve had it happen due to clerical errors in something small that turned not so small. My life didn’t necessarily get flipped upside down, but it took several months to clear up for sure.

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            2 hours ago

            So if these people are not convicted and may be innocent, and whether bail is granted is determined by the risk the arrested person presents… How is cashless bail soft on crime?

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              2 hours ago

              I’ll give you an example.

              We’ll known community person and respected small business owner has a falling out with wife, and-turns out- has a history of domestic violence. Guy gets arrested that night (not the first time) and acts like he calms down and gets let go bc he is compliant and doesn’t fight being taken in and processed, etc.

              However, he immediately goes back to ex wife’s house and murders her, her new bf, and critically injures another family member before taking his own life.

              That’s partially on the officers for believing he cooled down, and probably now a civil lawsuit. But had he stayed in jail even a little longer until posting bail the following day or having more time to cool off or think things through, and not doing something drastic, could that have gone differently?

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                2 hours ago

                So this is just a hypothetical, not an actual example of a large number of people released on cashless bail actually hurting someone?

                Do you have examples showing how people who had to pay to get out of jail as opposed to cashless are less likely to murder their wives?

                You’re also not explaining how someone who they were willing to just let out would have had a large bail amount keeping them in jail. Your scenario makes no sense.