That is interesting. I’ve always associated Basmati rice with India, yet the term “rice” when used with computers, came from “rice bois” in the car world many, many years ago.
These were traditionally young Japanese men, who did up their cars to look amazingly fancy, but underneath they weren’t capable at all.
So they were all show and no go so to speak.
I guess just recently in the politically correct world, that I saw born here on Lemny in real time, the term rice is not appropriate anymore, because it’s associated with racism.
I hope that little history lesson helps you see the root of the term rice, and why it is intriguing to me, to see Basmati used here, as the term changes, and morphs through time.
I’m not American. This is literally the history of “ricing”. You might not like it, as yes, it is racist, but, if you research, you’ll see it’s what it is. Facts are facts.
You’re the one who made the claim so the onus is on you to provide a source. That’s literally the most basic thing a person learns in academia. You can’t claim that “facts are facts” without providing proof of those facts.
Furthermore, you can hold Americocentric views without being American. That’s the whole purpose behind American cultural exports.
Just read it. That is a very bad source. It does the same thing you did and just made unverified claims with no actual evidence. It also makes leaps in logic (e.g. “The word was meant to convey, at that time, the inferiority of Asian products to European products. By extension, Asians are also inferior to Europeans.”) It makes no mention of “rice boys” and so can’t support that claim either. In fact, while I’ve been doing your due diligence for the last hour, I haven’t found an appropriate historical source for any of this. Not on Google Scholar, not on Google proper, nor in my university’s library. The closest thing I’ve found for “rice boy” in particular is the dubious book of definitions that Wikipedia is using as a source for that claim. And the closest thing I’m finding for racist connotations of “rice burner” is from the book Far Eastern Tour which outlines its use in Korea by Canadians in reference to Korean support troops. Of course, the Oxford Dictionary has some information concerning the American etymology, but it is paywalled so I can’t access it.
And how dare you accuse me of rewriting history when you won’t make the slightest effort to research it yourself. What a shameful display of hypocrisy.
Listen, I’m old. I lived it. I saw it happen,and I’ve seen how it’s transitioned. That’s all I need.
People can jump up and down and around and demand sources all they like but when I’ve seen heard it with my own eyes and ears, hung out with car guys, experienced that old culture, seeing the world transition and progress to become less racist and a better place, than I am happy with the facts and the truth as I saw it and as I lived.
Do whatever it is that you think you’re needing from all of this. If it makes it all better for you then I guess that’s important for you and you keep living that life.
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That is interesting. I’ve always associated Basmati rice with India, yet the term “rice” when used with computers, came from “rice bois” in the car world many, many years ago.
These were traditionally young Japanese men, who did up their cars to look amazingly fancy, but underneath they weren’t capable at all.
So they were all show and no go so to speak.
I guess just recently in the politically correct world, that I saw born here on Lemny in real time, the term rice is not appropriate anymore, because it’s associated with racism.
I hope that little history lesson helps you see the root of the term rice, and why it is intriguing to me, to see Basmati used here, as the term changes, and morphs through time.
Thanks but I just used it to be different. I’ll keep on too.
Totally. It’s great to see language evolve.
What an Americocentric attitude. Gross.
I’m not American. This is literally the history of “ricing”. You might not like it, as yes, it is racist, but, if you research, you’ll see it’s what it is. Facts are facts.
You’re the one who made the claim so the onus is on you to provide a source. That’s literally the most basic thing a person learns in academia. You can’t claim that “facts are facts” without providing proof of those facts.
Furthermore, you can hold Americocentric views without being American. That’s the whole purpose behind American cultural exports.
https://roadsumo.com/what-is-a-ricer-car/
Hundreds of articles.
Read it or not. It’s just the truth of the otigin of the term.
You cannot rewrite history just because you don’t agree with it.
Fingers in ears. Eyes closes. La la la la.
Just read it. That is a very bad source. It does the same thing you did and just made unverified claims with no actual evidence. It also makes leaps in logic (e.g. “The word was meant to convey, at that time, the inferiority of Asian products to European products. By extension, Asians are also inferior to Europeans.”) It makes no mention of “rice boys” and so can’t support that claim either. In fact, while I’ve been doing your due diligence for the last hour, I haven’t found an appropriate historical source for any of this. Not on Google Scholar, not on Google proper, nor in my university’s library. The closest thing I’ve found for “rice boy” in particular is the dubious book of definitions that Wikipedia is using as a source for that claim. And the closest thing I’m finding for racist connotations of “rice burner” is from the book Far Eastern Tour which outlines its use in Korea by Canadians in reference to Korean support troops. Of course, the Oxford Dictionary has some information concerning the American etymology, but it is paywalled so I can’t access it.
And how dare you accuse me of rewriting history when you won’t make the slightest effort to research it yourself. What a shameful display of hypocrisy.
Listen, I’m old. I lived it. I saw it happen,and I’ve seen how it’s transitioned. That’s all I need.
People can jump up and down and around and demand sources all they like but when I’ve seen heard it with my own eyes and ears, hung out with car guys, experienced that old culture, seeing the world transition and progress to become less racist and a better place, than I am happy with the facts and the truth as I saw it and as I lived.
Do whatever it is that you think you’re needing from all of this. If it makes it all better for you then I guess that’s important for you and you keep living that life.
Have a great, upcoming weekend. Laters!