I got banned for telling the guy posting Tucker Carlson on “Progressive Politics” that he’s a chickenshit coward because he couldn’t give a reason why he’s platforming Nazi shit and instead deflecting to a hundred other topics.

I’m not mad that I got banned, I was very rude to the guy, but it is pretty gross that they’re still promoting a reactionary white supremacist as “progressive politics.” I reported the post to the mod and got banned instead.

Oh well, that place has a history of hosting that kind of garbage anyway. No big loss.

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    Adolf Hitler supported social welfare, an ostensibly progressive idea, but only for people he deemed worthy.

    This did not make him a progressive nor would those programs be appropriate to share in a community about progressive politics were they contemporary.

    Tucker might oppose military aid to Israel, but his ideology isn’t anticolonialism, it’s nationalist. He isn’t opposed to colonialism, he’s lamenting resources being sent overseas when they could be used to promote nationalist goals in America. His ideology similarly shouldn’t be in any community for the promotion of progressive politcs.

    If you bristle at the idea of referencing Adolf Hitler, you can find similar examples throughout the history of fascism. Even if a fascist seems to align with goals ostensibly for the benefit of the masses, their goals are perverse and this alignment is specifically meant to manipulate uncritically thinking people into supporting their twisted views.

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        So, just because Tucker Carlson didn’t commit the worst genocide in history, he’s a progressive?

        I think your logic is a little bit flawed there

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        That is correct, but Tucker spends time, effort and money promoting proponents of similar goals in American media. My point is not “Tucker Carlson is just as bad as Hitler”, but that fascists and nationalists may spout ostensibly progressive ideals but they do not have progressive goals.

        Furthermore, it’s dangerous to ignore that fact and promote the snippets of their ideology that align with progressive ideals because it normalizes and gives power to their platform, which may align with you in this one small instance, but is pitted against you when looked at as a whole.

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            Dude… what??

            How about you explain what benefit it has to progressive politics to laud Tucker’s position against America arming Israel?

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              It doesn’t but it does benefit palestinians by trying to convince evengelical that support for israel colonialism is not christians and not beneficial for them

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                I understand what you’re getting at here and while I think there is a noble goal there, there is a myriad of issues with that particular hope.

                Pushing most of those aside, do you think these Zionism-supporting American Christian Evangelicals are browsing progressivepolitics@lemmy.world looking for world-view changing articles and information? Do you think even a single Zionism-supporting American Christian Evangelical will ever see that post?

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        No, he is just a White Nationalist who reputation-launders genocide deniers like Daryl Cooper and gives propaganda advice to straight-up Nazis like Nick Fuentes.

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            Why defend him at all? He’s an absolute piece of shit who is your ideological enemy (if you are anti-colonialist).

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              There is more chance of evengelicals to be convinced to stop supporting Israel by someone like him then other type of people. Keeping associating his supermasism to his stand against Israel jas opposed wanted effect. While exposing his supermasism in isolated manner is beneficials to fight his supermasism ideology

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                So your idea to get Evangelicals out of the propaganda pipeline is to have them listen to a Nazi?

                They know he’s a White Supremacist; it’s why they listen to him. Nick Fuentes is also against supporting Israel; should we point them to him, too?